Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Notes

Oliver Frederick FRATER

Buried 27.12.1987 at Llandyry Church Trimsaran

Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater

Ephraim DOLEY

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia Stokes

William SHORT

Son of Hellen/Ellen SHORT by earlier relationship

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1841 Cen. Living Canal Street, Birmingham parish with mother, brother and mother’s parents

1851 Cen. Not traced - not rec. with mother and stepfather

1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with husband - iron caster; children by earlier relationship(s) William - Musician & John James - Iron Wire Drawer; children of second marriage Ellen, Eliza Ann, & Charles Thomas. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor

1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with mother and stepfather; brother, half- brother & half-sisters. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor. Note: rec. as m. but wife and children not present. Occupation: Musician (disability column torn away but William is blind)

1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with wife; children Thomas H - employed factory, William - employed forge, Rose Eliza, George F & Albert Edward. Their daughter, Elizabeth, is not present and is with brother John James and his wife, Amelia, in Plumstead, Kent. Note: William is recorded as blind & a musician.

1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Elizabeth

Known as Betsy

1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with husband; children Thomas H - employed factory, William - employed forge, Rose Eliza, George F & Albert Edward. Their daughter, Elizabeth, is not present and is with husband’s brother John James SHORT and his wife, Amelia, in Plumstead, Kent. Note: husband William is recorded as blind & a musician.

1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

1891 Cen. wife Elizabeth living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston - washerwoman, with children Rose, Albert - tube drawer, Charles, gas labourer, Alfred - brass fitter

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
After d. of William, 1891 Cen. wife Elizabeth living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston - washerwoman, with children Rose, Albert - tube drawer, Charles, gas labourer, Alfred - brass fitter.

Thomas H SHORT

email from Mike SHort 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. No trace of Thomas, his brother William or mother. Father, William SHORT, is with at his mother and stepfather’s house
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Thomas’s occupation: employed factory

William SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. No trace of William, his brother Thomas or mother. Father, William SHORT, is at mother and stepfather’s house
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents.

Rose Eliza SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Occupation: employed forge

1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother
No further trace

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Elizabeth SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen: with uncle John James SHORT and his wife Amelia in Plumstead, Kent

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

George F SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Occupation: employed forge

1891 Cen. Is a record of a Private George F SHORT at Chatham, Kent, District Royal Marines

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Albert SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents.

1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Tube Drawer
1901 Not traced (is not the Albert Edward SHORT with wife Alice Mary HAYWARD - they m. 1889)

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Charles SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Gas Labourer. 1901 - not traced

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

John James SHORT

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Alfred SHORT

KF1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Brass Fitter
1901 Not traced

George S JENKINS

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Eliza Ann JONES

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with husband - iron caster; children by earlier relationship(s) William - Musician & John James - Iron Wire Drawer; children of second marriage Ellen, Eliza Ann, & Charles Thomas. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Jane JENKINS

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Charlotte JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Nathaniel JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Francis H JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Oscar JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Thomas SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1851 Cen. Living 44 Sheep Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents

1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents

1871 Cen. Living 28 Digby Street, Birmingham St Mary with wife. Occupation: Caster

KF's 1881 census
112 Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3000/83 Page 21
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SHORT Head M Male 30 Birmingham Licenced Victualer
Eliza SHORT Wife M Female 28 Hatfield, Hereford, England
Anny Elizth. SHORT Daur U Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Nellie SHORT Daur U Female 7 Birmingham Scholar
Thomas SHORT Son U Male 4 Birmingham Scholar
Emily A. SHORT Daur U Female 2 Birmingham

1891 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St, Mary with wife; children Amy Elizabeth - Barmaid, Nellie - Pen ?slitter?, Thomas H - Cabinet Maker & Emily A.

1901 Cen. Thomas & wife Eliza have moved in with daughter Amy Elizabeth who has married Thomas BULLOCK b. 1864/5, a Chair Finisher, and their son Thomas. In the house next door to The Bulls Head, number 115, Thomas SHORT (sen) is back to his original occupation of Iron Caster. Meanwhile, his son Thomas H and daughter Emily A are next door managing the pub.

Eliza HOWARD

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living 28 Digby Street, Birmingham St Mary with husband - Caster

KF's 1881 census
112 Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3000/83 Page 21
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SHORT Head M Male 30 Birmingham Licenced Victualer
Eliza SHORT Wife M Female 28 Hatfield, Hereford, England
Anny Elizth. SHORT Daur U Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Nellie SHORT Daur U Female 7 Birmingham Scholar
Thomas SHORT Son U Male 4 Birmingham Scholar
Emily A. SHORT Daur U Female 2 Birmingham

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St, Mary with husband; children Amy Elizabeth - Barmaid, Nellie - Pen ?slitter?, Thomas H - Cabinet Maker & Emily A.

1901 Cen. Eliza and husband- iron caster, have moved in with daughter Amy Elizabeth who has married Thomas BULLOCK b. 1864/5, a Chair Finisher, and their son Thomas. In the house next door to The Bulls Head, number 115. Meanwhile, son Thomas H and daughter Emily A are next door managing the pub.

Thomas H SHORT

KF's 1881 census
112 Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3000/83 Page 21
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SHORT Head M Male 30 Birmingham Licenced Victualer
Eliza SHORT Wife M Female 28 Hatfield, Hereford, England
Anny Elizth. SHORT Daur U Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Nellie SHORT Daur U Female 7 Birmingham Scholar
Thomas SHORT Son U Male 4 Birmingham Scholar
Emily A. SHORT Daur U Female 2 Birmingham

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St. Mary parish with parents. Occupation: cabinet Maker

1901 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St. Mary parish. Running the pub with his sister Emily. Parents have moved to next door at 115 Moland Street with sister Amy Elizabeth - now married.

Emily A SHORT

KF's 1881 census
112 Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3000/83 Page 21
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SHORT Head M Male 30 Birmingham Licenced Victualer
Eliza SHORT Wife M Female 28 Hatfield, Hereford, England
Anny Elizth. SHORT Daur U Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Nellie SHORT Daur U Female 7 Birmingham Scholar
Thomas SHORT Son U Male 4 Birmingham Scholar
Emily A. SHORT Daur U Female 2 Birmingham

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St. Mary parish with parents.
1901 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St. Mary parish. Running the pub with her brother Thomas H. Parents have moved to next door at 115 Moland Street with sister Amy Elizabeth - now married

Thomas HOWARD

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
m. 1870 SH4.1A.3.3S Eliza HOWARD b. 1853 Hatfield, Herefordshire, daughter Of Thomas HOWARD b. 1817, a farmer of 100 acres who bef. 1871 moved to B’ham as a Carter & Eliza NUTT

Eliza NUTT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
m. 1870 SH4.1A.3.3S Eliza HOWARD b. 1853 Hatfield, Herefordshire, daughter Of Thomas HOWARD b. 1817, a farmer of 100 acres who bef. 1871 moved to B’ham as a Carter & Eliza NUTT

Thomas BULLOCK

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1901 Cen. Thomas & wife Eliza have moved in with daughter Amy Elizabeth who has married Thomas BULLOCK b. 1864/5, a Chair Finisher, and their son Thomas. In the house next door to The Bulls Head, number 115, Thomas SHORT (sen) is back to his original occupation of Iron Caster. Meanwhile, his son Thomas H and daughter Emily A are next door managing the pub.

Amy Elizabeth SHORT

KF's 1881 census
112 Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3000/83 Page 21
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas SHORT Head M Male 30 Birmingham Licenced Victualer
Eliza SHORT Wife M Female 28 Hatfield, Hereford, England
Anny Elizth. SHORT Daur U Female 9 Birmingham Scholar
Nellie SHORT Daur U Female 7 Birmingham Scholar
Thomas SHORT Son U Male 4 Birmingham Scholar
Emily A. SHORT Daur U Female 2 Birmingham

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1891 Cen. Living at ‘The Bull’s Head’ public house, 110 Moland Street, Birmingham St. Mary parish with parents. Occupation: Barmaid

1901 Cen. Thomas & wife Eliza have moved in with daughter Amy Elizabeth who has married Thomas BULLOCK b. 1864/5, a Chair Finisher, and their son Thomas. In the house next door to The Bulls Head, number 115, Thomas SHORT (sen) is back to his original occupation of Iron Caster. Meanwhile, his son Thomas H and daughter Emily A are next door managing the pub.

John Joseph JONES

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others

KF's 1881 census
69 Moland St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3001/91 Page 24
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John Joseph JONES Head M Male 37 Birmingham, Warwick, England Brass Founder
Selina Ann JONES Wife M Female 25 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Selina Gerte.Kate JONES Daur U Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Drenedla Dora JONES Daur U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Kate GRADY Sister U Female 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England Lacquerer
Jane POWELL Serv U Female 29 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Serv (Dom)

Selina Ann SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents

1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham and shown as an assistant in the family business (Iron Foundry?)
m. 1877 SH4.1A.3.6A John Joseph JONES b. 1844 Birmingham, Brass Founder

KF's 1881 census
69 Moland St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3001/91 Page 24
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John Joseph JONES Head M Male 37 Birmingham, Warwick, England Brass Founder
Selina Ann JONES Wife M Female 25 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Selina Gerte.Kate JONES Daur U Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Drenedla Dora JONES Daur U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Kate GRADY Sister U Female 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England Lacquerer
Jane POWELL Serv U Female 29 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Serv (Dom)

1891Cen. Living 271 Park Road, Aston Manor with husband, Selina, Gertrude Kate, Drusilla Dora, Maud May & John Joseph

1901 Cen. Living 50 Allesley Street (same street brother Alfred Joseph lived in 1871) with husband now shown as occupation: self-employed traveller; children Selina - Clerk, Dora - C…idge Inspector Fire, Maud - Pen slitter, John - … Worker & Constance

Children: Selina Gertrude Kate JONES b. 1877/8 BirminghamDrusilla Dora JONES b. 1879 Birmingham; Maud Mary JONES b. 1884 Birmingham; John Joseph JONES b. 1885/6 B’ham; Constance Hilda JONES b. 1896/7 Birmingham

Selina Gertrude Kate JONES

KF's 1881 census
69 Moland St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3001/91 Page 24
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John Joseph JONES Head M Male 37 Birmingham, Warwick, England Brass Founder
Selina Ann JONES Wife M Female 25 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Selina Gerte.Kate JONES Daur U Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Drenedla Dora JONES Daur U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Kate GRADY Sister U Female 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England Lacquerer
Jane POWELL Serv U Female 29 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Serv (Dom)

Drenedla Dora JONES

KF's 1881 census
69 Moland St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3001/91 Page 24
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John Joseph JONES Head M Male 37 Birmingham, Warwick, England Brass Founder
Selina Ann JONES Wife M Female 25 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Selina Gerte.Kate JONES Daur U Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Drenedla Dora JONES Daur U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Kate GRADY Sister U Female 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England Lacquerer
Jane POWELL Serv U Female 29 Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Serv (Dom)

Francis SNEAD

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others

KF's 1881 census
George Rd, Yardley, Worcester, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3083/100 Page 39
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Francis SNEAD Head M Male 22 Munworth Wire Drawer
Harriet SNEAD Wife M Female 21 Bham Wife

Drusilla Harriet SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents

1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham

KF's 1881 census
George Rd, Yardley, Worcester, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3083/100 Page 39
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Francis SNEAD Head M Male 22 Munworth Wire Drawer
Harriet SNEAD Wife M Female 21 Bham Wife

1891 not yet traced