from son's marriage certificate
from son's marriage certificate
Emma first appears in records m the 1841 census for Price Street in the district of St. Mary's. This census was taken in June 1841. I found this entry on 1841, Birmingham 4+, HO 107/1143 for House 2, Court 15, Price St. (Price Street seems to have run between Loveday St. and Lancaster Street more or less where St. Chad's Ringway now runs at the back of the Dental Hospital. St.Mary's Church was built as an annexe of St. Martin's from l779 onwards: elegant Georgian terraces once surrounded it. It became a Parish C'hurch in the 1830s but fell into decline and was eventually demolished. Price Street did not contain elegant Georgian houses but rather the smelly, insanitary courts ol back-to-back houses inhabited by the working classes of old Birmingham. In 1835 Price Street was on the northernmost edge of Birmingham.
1841, court 15, House 2. Price St.
William SHORT (Head), aged 40, Iron Caster, born Warwickshire
Mary Ann SHORT(Wife), aged 40 born outside the county.
Eliza SHORT (daughter), aged 15, born Warwickshire
Thomas SHORT (son), aged 15, born Warwickshire,
William SHORT(son), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Mary SHORT (daughter), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Emma SHORT (daughter), aged 6, born Warwickshire
James SHORT(son), aged 3, born Warwickshire
John SHORT (son), aged 1, born WarwickshireNot far away lived Thomas SHORT at 44, Sheep St. (Ref: 2054/183/21)
44, Sheep St. (near Gosta Green)
Head, Thomas SHORT, aged 25 Iron Castor, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Wife, Emily, aged 26, born Warwickshire, Birmingham.
Son, Alfred, aged 5, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Daughter, Emily, aged 3, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Son Thomas, aged 1, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
(Thomas and Emily seem to have got married about 1845 or 46).email Mike Short
1851 Cen. Living 44 Sheep Street, Aston, Birmingham with wife; children Alfred, Emily & Thomas; also wife’s sister, Betsy ALLBUTT b. 1828, dressmaker. Thomas’s occupation: Iron caster employing 3 pair hands1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with wife; children Alfred, Emily, Thomas, Jane, Mary Ann, Selina, Ellen, Drusilla Harriet; also present wife’s sister Betsy ALLBUTT now shown as house servant. Thomas’s occupation: Iron Founder
1871 Cen. Living at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham with wife; children Jane, Mary Ann & Selina all three shown as Assistant in (family) business; children Ellen, Drusilla Harriet, Hannah & Alexander. Thomas’s Occupation: Iron founder
KF's 1881 census entry
Lee Tavern, Yardley, Worcester, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3083/38 Page 11
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Thomas SHORT M Male 56 Bham, Warwick, England Inn Keeper
Emily SHORT M Female 57 Bham, Warwick, England
Hannah SHORT U Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England
Alexander SHORT U Male 16 Bham, Warwick, England1891 Cen. Thomas and wife back at Legge Street, Aston, but now at number 54; occupation: Iron Founder
Not far away lived Thomas SHORT at 44, Sheep St. (Ref: 2054/183/21)
44, Sheep St. (near Gosta Green)
Head, Thomas SHORT, aged 25 Iron Castor, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Wife, Emily, aged 26, born Warwickshire, Birmingham.
Son, Alfred, aged 5, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Daughter, Emily, aged 3, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Son Thomas, aged 1, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
(Thomas and Emily seem to have got married about 1845 or 46).email from Virginia Stokes 28/12/2004 provided family name for Emily
email from Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research from Virginia Stokes
1851 Cen. Living 44 Sheep Street, Aston, Birmingham with husband; children Alfred, Emily & Thomas; also sister, Betsy ALLBUTT b. 1828, dressmaker. Husband’s occupation: Iron caster employing 3 pair hands1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with husband; children Alfred, Emily, Thomas, Jane, Mary Ann, Selina, Ellen, Drusilla Harriet; also present Betsy ALLBUTT now shown as house servant. Husband’s occupation: Iron Founder
1871 Cen. Living at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham with husband; children Jane, Mary Ann & Selina all three shown as Assistant in (family) business; children Ellen, Drusilla Harriet, Hannah & Alexander. Husband’s Occupation: Iron founder
KF's 1881 census entry
Lee Tavern, Yardley, Worcester, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3083/38 Page 11
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Thomas SHORT M Male 56 Bham, Warwick, England Inn Keeper
Emily SHORT M Female 57 Bham, Warwick, England
Hannah SHORT U Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England
Alexander SHORT U Male 16 Bham, Warwick, England1891 Cen. Living at 45 Legge Street, Aston; husband’s occupation: Iron Founder
1851 census
Not far away lived Thomas SHORT at 44, Sheep St. (Ref: 2054/183/21)
44, Sheep St. (near Gosta Green)
Head, Thomas SHORT, aged 25 Iron Castor, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Wife, Emily, aged 26, born Warwickshire, Birmingham.
Son, Alfred, aged 5, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Daughter, Emily, aged 3, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
Son Thomas, aged 1, born Warwickshire, Birmingham
(Thomas and Emily seem to have got married about 1845 or 46).1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents
email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham and shown as an assistant in the family business (Iron Foundry)
email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham and shown as an assistant in the family business (Iron Foundry)
email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, BirminghamKF's 1881 census
Lee Tavern, Yardley, Worcester, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3083/38 Page 11
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Thomas SHORT M Male 56 Bham, Warwick, England Inn Keeper
Emily SHORT M Female 57 Bham, Warwick, England
Hannah SHORT U Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England
Alexander SHORT U Male 16 Bham, Warwick, England
email Mike Short 8.4.2006 orig research Virginia STOKES, and others
1861 Cen. living 70 Legge Street, Aston, Birmingham with parents1871 Cen. Living with parents at ‘Gothic Villas’ next to the Wesleyan Chapel on Kingsbury Road, Erdington, Aston, Birmingham
E-mailed by John Bridgeman (15.6.2003)
E-mailed by John Bridgeman (15.6.2003)