The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
The relationship of John Bartlett (b abt 1829) to this name is disproved at the moment and comes from details supplied by John W Cooper. The presumed relationship needs verifying.
Base on 1861 Glamorgan census Mary & Hannah are presumed to be sisters of John - to be proved
4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET JOHN HD M 32 GARDENER GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET ELIZABETH WI M 29 - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY ANN DA U 6 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY E. DA U 4 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. DA U 7M - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY A. VR U 20 - GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. VR U 17 - GLS PRESTBURY
Base on 1861 Glamorgan census Mary & Hannah are presumed to be sisters of John - to be proved
4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET JOHN HD M 32 GARDENER GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET ELIZABETH WI M 29 - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY ANN DA U 6 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY E. DA U 4 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. DA U 7M - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY A. VR U 20 - GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. VR U 17 - GLS PRESTBURY
known to have got married from BMD but not who to.
Marriages Mar 1883
BEDFORD Charles Islington 1b 515
Catalani Michele Islington 1b 515
Frater Eliza Dundas Islington 1b 515
Martyn Ann Maria Islington 1b 515
on the 1871 Census this was found
(why was she not living with James (husband)
12 Drummond Crescent, St Pancras
Mary Richardson Head ? 50 Laundress Middlesex, St Pancras
Sarah Frater Wife Married 41 Seamstres Middlesex, Kensington
Eliza Frater Daughter Unmarried 16 Seamstres Middlesex, IslingtonIs this the right James from 1881 Census
Dwelling: 6 Charlotte Terrace Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0231 Folio 79 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 61 F Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor Eliza D. FRATER U 25 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Arthur FRATER U 21 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Chair & Sofa Wood Carverbased on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added
Eliza Dundas b 1851not 1856known to have got married from BMD but not who to.
Marriages Mar 1883
BEDFORD Charles Islington 1b 515
Catalani Michele Islington 1b 515
Frater Eliza Dundas Islington 1b 515
Martyn Ann Maria Islington 1b 515Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown.
She has birth year as 185528 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.
BMD show a "Henry James Harris" and "William Thomas".
Believe the spouser will be "Harris." There are other links to the Harris family and it was not uncommon for family members from one family to marry other members of the other family.
1881 Census
Dwelling: 145 Dumfries St. Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 133 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GALLOWAY M 31 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Emma GALLOWAY M 31 F Somerset, England Rel: Wife George GALLOWAY 10 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William GALLOWAY 8 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Archibald GALLOWAY 5 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith GALLOWAY 3 F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 5 or 6 (both are down as separate page numbers)
22 Dumfries Street
John Galloway, Head, 41, Colliery Roadman, Scotland, English & Welsh speaker
Emma Galloway, Wife, 41, England, English speaker
William H Galloway, 18, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Archibald Galloway, 15, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Edith Galloway, 13, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
David Galloway, 6, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Harry Sykes, Cousin, 19, coalminer, England - Stoke Gifford (Gafford), English speaker
Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names already got
"While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater and Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorded as FRAITER.
The children were:
Christian (F) born 1771
John (M) born 1773
Henry (M) born 1776
Jean (F) born 1778
James (M) born 1781 and
Janet (F) born 1786.
Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside"taken from Muiravonside Parish Marriages (1692 - 1875)
Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names already got
"While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater and Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorded as FRAITER.
The children were:
Christian (F) born 1771
John (M) born 1773
Henry (M) born 1776
Jean (F) born 1778
James (M) born 1781 and
Janet (F) born 1786.
Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside"taken from Muiravonside Parish Marriages (1692 - 1875)
The following entry was found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Minchinhampton/nailsworth51.html
for the 1851 census for a George Townsend
20
TOWNSEND George 51 Scripture Reader Prston
Ellen 52 Avening
Charles 21 Bakers App Horsley
Hannah 13 AveningThis could be a ref. to Mary's father.
1881 census familysearch.org
Dwelling Summer Street
Census Place Stroud, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341614
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2545 / 21 Page Number 35
Charles TOWNSEND Head M Male 51 Horsley Bristol Baker Journeyman
Sarah TOWNSEND Wife M Female 47 Laundress
1881 census familysearch.org
Dwelling Summer Street
Census Place Stroud, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341614
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2545 / 21 Page Number 35
Charles TOWNSEND Head M Male 51 Horsley Bristol Baker Journeyman
Sarah TOWNSEND Wife M Female 47 Laundress
taken from BMD Foord's married in Holborn within the correct period. This is the only one. In the same Qtr checking the Jane's that got married there are two possibilities. Jane BUTLER (page 1054) and Jane Eliza FLAWN (page 1064).
I favour BUTLER, for no other reason than instinct. (KF)
marriage taken from BMD Foord's married in Holborn within the correct period. This is the only one. In the same Qtr checking the Jane's that got married there are two possibilities. Jane BUTLER (page 1054) and Jane Eliza FLAWN (page 1064).
I favour BUTLER, for no other reason than instinct. (KF)Dwelling 10 North Street Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0355 / 47 Page Number 14
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Jane FOORD Wife (Head) M Female 58 London, Middlesex, England Nurse
John D. FOORD Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Polisher
Frances A. FOORD Daur U Female 24 London, Middlesex, England Machinist
Ellen E. FRATER Daur M Female 19 London, Middlesex, England Dress Maker
Willie FRATER Gran Son U Male 11m London, Middlesex, England
Mary PHILLIPS Relative M Female 51 London, Middlesex, England
Henry F. PHILLIPS Relative U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar1901 Census
RG 13/251 Page 4
Ecclesiastical St Silas
Municipal Finsbury
Ward No 1 (Pentonville)
Parliamentary Islington South
64 Wynford Road, Clerkenwell
Frederick Purle Head M 56 Bowyer (Toy) London
Caroline Purle Wife M 50 London
Willie Purle Son M 22 Cabinet Maker London
Lilly Purle Saughter S 20 Machinist (Shirt) London
Peter Purle Son S 17 Smith (Blacks) London
Joseph Purle Son S 15 Errand Boy (Port) London
Caroline Purle Daughter S 9 London
Mary Knight Drand-daughter S 4 London
Jane Foord Mother-in-Law W 78 London
Charles Frater Nephew - 18 London
Dwelling 10 North Street Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0355 / 47 Page Number 14
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Jane FOORD Wife (Head) M Female 58 London, Middlesex, England Nurse
John D. FOORD Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Polisher
Frances A. FOORD Daur U Female 24 London, Middlesex, England Machinist
Ellen E. FRATER Daur M Female 19 London, Middlesex, England Dress Maker
Willie FRATER Gran Son U Male 11m London, Middlesex, England
Mary PHILLIPS Relative M Female 51 London, Middlesex, England
Henry F. PHILLIPS Relative U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Dwelling 10 North Street Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0355 / 47 Page Number 14
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
Jane FOORD Wife (Head) M Female 58 London, Middlesex, England Nurse
John D. FOORD Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Polisher
Frances A. FOORD Daur U Female 24 London, Middlesex, England Machinist
Ellen E. FRATER Daur M Female 19 London, Middlesex, England Dress Maker
Willie FRATER Gran Son U Male 11m London, Middlesex, England
Mary PHILLIPS Relative M Female 51 London, Middlesex, England
Henry F. PHILLIPS Relative U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
details from Karen Leigh Hemmingway