Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Notes


Frank Ellis (Ernest?) PRATT

referenced in Treorchy Cemetery Interment document 44248 of wife Ceinwen Dyfi. current best guess is son of Frank as has same job and name as possible Father. Currently disproved.

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 2
10 Halifax Terrace
Frank Pratt, Head, 28, Stationary Engine driver, Devonshire Broadc?t, English & Welsh speaker
Eleanor Pratt, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English & Welsh speaker
Frank Ernest Pratt, Son, 4, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Beatrice Pratt, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Cyril Mervyn Pratt, Son, 11 mths, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker


William Henry GALLOWAY

Referenced in Treorchy Cemetery Interment Doc 46233 (wife Keziah) address shown is 44 Dumfries Street. This is same as George Galloway Jr. Presumed relationship. Given ages son is most likely.

1881 census details as tracked down by John Thompson
Census: 1881, GLA, Ystradfodwg, Treorchy, 39 Dumfries Rd.
George GREENWAY Head M Male 33 Kinross, Scotland Coal Miner
Elizabeth GREENWAY Wife M Female 36 Roberrow, Somerset, England
Agnes GREENWAY Dau Female 6 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
William H. GREENWAY Son Male 4 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charlotte GREENWAY Dau Female 4 m Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales
Source Information:
Dwelling 39 Dumfries St Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5300 / 119 Page Number 4

1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 7
39 Dumfries Street
George Galloway, Head, 43, coalminer, Scotland Kinross, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 46, Somerset, English speaker
Agnes Galloway, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
William H Galloway, Son, 14, coalminer, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
John Galloway, Son, 8, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
George Galloway, Son, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker


Keziah BRYANT

Name is spelt Kaziah on Free BMD


John GALLOWAY

Interment doc for John Galloway shows he is buried with George Galloway Jr. No previous reference linked John born 1883 with George. Given dates he is presumed to be son.

1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 7
39 Dumfries Street
George Galloway, Head, 43, coalminer, Scotland Kinross, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 46, Somerset, English speaker
Agnes Galloway, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
William H Galloway, Son, 14, coalminer, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
John Galloway, Son, 8, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
George Galloway, Son, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker


Elizabeth Jane DINGLE

Free BMD shows a Janie Dingle married in the same qtr as a John Galloway. This could be the same Galloway.


George TOWNSEND

The following entry was found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Minchinhampton/nailsworth51.html
for the 1851 census for a George Townsend
20
TOWNSEND George 51 Scripture Reader Prston
Ellen 52 Avening
Charles 21 Bakers App Horsley
Hannah 13 Avening

This could be a ref. to Mary's father.


Ellen

The following entry was found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Minchinhampton/nailsworth51.html
for the 1851 census for a George Townsend
20
TOWNSEND George 51 Scripture Reader Prston
Ellen 52 Avening
Charles 21 Bakers App Horsley
Hannah 13 Avening

This could be a ref. to Mary's father.


Hannah TOWNSEND

The following entry was found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Minchinhampton/nailsworth51.html
for the 1851 census for a George Townsend
20
TOWNSEND George 51 Scripture Reader Prston
Ellen 52 Avening
Charles 21 Bakers App Horsley
Hannah 13 Avening

This could be a ref. to Mary's father.


Job VRANCH

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.


Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).

Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


Jane CARPENTER

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.

1861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East Harptree

This may be two people Anne & Jane where they both married Job Vranch.

The 1871 Census - Weston super Mare Parish - 12 Park Place - Piece 2459 - Folio 69 - Page 67 - Schedule 376
Musley B Saunders Head M 41 Curate of St John's Ireland
Aharia Saunders Wife M 44 Cape of Good Hope
Frances Smith Serv U 24 Cook Rockhampton, Dorset
Jane Carpenter Serv U 19 Housemaid East Harptree

Jane being a Carpenter is current supposition based on this being Hubert Vranch nephew of Francis Carpenter
The 1881 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 2429 - Folio 124 - Page 17 Job Branch Head M 38 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Jane Branch Wife M 28 East Harptree Edwin Branch Son 14 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Hubert Branch Son 12 Midsomer Norton George Branch Son 10 Kilmersdon Mary Branch Daur 6 Buckland Rosina Branch Daur 3 Buckland Arthur Branch Son 1 Midsomer Norton

Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


Edwin John VRANCH

from Phil Clements
Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon


Mary VRANCH

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton


Rosina VRANCH

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton


Arthur VRANCH

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton


Emily VRANCH

Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.


Elizabeth VRANCH

Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.


Albert(sic) Percy VRANCH

Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.


Ernest VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


William VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


Walter VRANCH

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


William VRANCH

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.


Mary Ann MATTHEWS

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.


Job VRANCH

Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.


Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).

Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon

From Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.

In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton

1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset


Ann CARPENTER

Death is shown as before 1881 as 1881 census shows Job married to Jane. Jane is thought to be Anne's sister. This leads to the belief that new marriage is because of death rather than divorce.

1851 census from Phil Clements
The 1851 Census - Stowey Parish - Res: Knighton Sutton - Piece 1938 - Folio 145 - Page 2 - Schedule 7
Robert Lyde Head M 50 Farmer 136 acres Stowey
Elizabeth Lyde Wife M 40 Litton
William Lyde Son 12 Scholar at home Litton
Mary Jane Lyde Daur 2 Litton
John Lyde Brother M 62 Carpenter Litton
Ann Carpenter Servant 16 East Harptree

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon


Edwin John VRANCH

from Phil Clements
Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon


George VRANCH

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon


Jestyn Hopkin BARTLETT

Cannot find particular marriage of Jestyn. Could this be a mistranscibe?
Marriages Sep 1910
Bartlett James H Cardiff 11a 595
Stitfall Mary A Cardiff 11a 595

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

1881 Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
John BARTLETT Head M Male 56 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Gardener (Dom)
Elizabeth BARTLETT Wife M Female 56 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Gardeners Wife
Jestyn BARTLETT Son U Male 13 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Gertrude BARTLETT Daur U Female 10 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Dwelling 29 Henry Street, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO Reference RG11 Piece/Folio 5340/66 Page 43

IN / LOVING MEMORY OF / MARY ANN / BELOVED WIFE OF / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE / OCTOBER 16TH 1937 / AGED 64 YEARS / ETERNAL REST GRANT TO HER O LORD / AND LET LIGHT PERPETUAL SHINE UPON HER / ALSO LOUISA CAROLINE / DIED IN INFANCY / ALSO THE ABOVE NAMED / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DIED AUGUST 19TH 1941 / AGED 73 YEARS / FOR YOU SWEET REST / FOR US HAPPY MEMORIES


Mary Ann SMITH

Wife's name comes from inscription on grave in Llantwit Cemetery provided by Brian Wagstaffe

IN / LOVING MEMORY OF / MARY ANN / BELOVED WIFE OF / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE / OCTOBER 16TH 1937 / AGED 64 YEARS / ETERNAL REST GRANT TO HER O LORD / AND LET LIGHT PERPETUAL SHINE UPON HER / ALSO LOUISA CAROLINE / DIED IN INFANCY / ALSO THE ABOVE NAMED / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DIED AUGUST 19TH 1941 / AGED 73 YEARS / FOR YOU SWEET REST / FOR US HAPPY MEMORIES


Louisa Caroline BARTLETT

Died in infancy. Taken from grave inscription in Llantwit Church, Neath.

IN / LOVING MEMORY OF / MARY ANN / BELOVED WIFE OF / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE / OCTOBER 16TH 1937 / AGED 64 YEARS / ETERNAL REST GRANT TO HER O LORD / AND LET LIGHT PERPETUAL SHINE UPON HER / ALSO LOUISA CAROLINE / DIED IN INFANCY / ALSO THE ABOVE NAMED / JESTYN HOPKIN BARTLETT / WHO DIED AUGUST 19TH 1941 / AGED 73 YEARS / FOR YOU SWEET REST / FOR US HAPPY MEMORIES