Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Notes


Joseph ABBOTT

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Joseph ABBOTT b. 1830/1 Aston, Birmingham, occupation: Pearl Button Maker

In the 1851 census for Birmingham the only Emma SHORT I can find who is the right age for our Emma is given thus: (Census Ref. 2061/213/50)
Little Francis St. Aston
Head, Joseph ABBOTT, aged 31, Pearl Button Maker born Birmingham, Warks.
Wife, Mary Ann, aged 22 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Daughter, Eliza, aged 1 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Visitor, Emma SHORT, aged 16. born Birmingham, Warwickshire
So it appears that Emma was staying with her sister, Mary Ann ABBOTT on the night of the census.
This census was taken in April of 1851. Little Francis St. ran between Great Lister Street and Lupin St. It was just round the corner from Bloomsbury

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1861 Cen. Living ----- John Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston with husband; children Eliza, Emma Alice, William Charles, Rosina & Mary Ann. Child Arthur Joseph ABBOTT b. 1858 not present assumed d.

1871 Cen. Living 123 Cattell Road, Bordsley, Aston. (Mary Ann’s occupation: boot & drapers shop) with husband; children Eliza- machinist, Emma Alice - pearl button finisher, William - pearl button maker, Rosina - domestic work, Mary Ann, Florence & Albert Joseph. Also present is adopted son, William J SEELEY, aged 16 b. Birmingham, deaf & dumb.

1881 census
115 Cattell Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3023/101 Page 9
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph ABBOTT Head M Male 50 Birmingham, Warwick, England Pearl Button Maker
Mary Ann ABBOTT Wife M Female 52 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Emma ABBOTT Dau U Female 29 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Florence ABBOTT Dau Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Albert J. ABBOTT Son Male 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Eliza ABBOTT Dau Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006 original research Lavinia & Geoff ISAAC
1891. Cen. Living at 17 Abbey Street, Rhuddlan, Rhyl, Flintshire, Wales. Their house is a holiday lodging house and Mary Ann is described as ‘lodging house keeper’, Joseph as ‘employed bath chair proprieter’. Daughter Emma is present, aged 39 unmarried waitress and son Albert Joseph is living with them and employed as a hairdresser. Also present is grand-daughter Eliza Mary Ann ABBOTT aged 17 b. Birmingham - kitchen maid.

1901 Cen. Living 5 River Street, Rhyl, with wife . Also present are three people who have not been identified: Elizabeth H MOSELEY ‘daughter’ aged 34 b. Birmingham; Florence MOSELEY grand-daughter aged 10 b. Manchester; Ernest S MOSELEY grandson aged 5 b. US America. Although described as ‘daughter’ no connection has made between Joseph & Mary Ann’s children and Elizabeth H MOSELEY and her two children. Joseph’s occupation: Lodging House Keeper


Mary Ann SHORT

Emma first appears in records m the 1841 census for Price Street in the district of St. Mary's. This census was taken in June 1841. I found this entry on 1841, Birmingham 4+, HO 107/1143 for House 2, Court 15, Price St. (Price Street seems to have run between Loveday St. and Lancaster Street more or less where St. Chad's Ringway now runs at the back of the Dental Hospital. St.Mary's Church was built as an annexe of St. Martin's from l779 onwards: elegant Georgian terraces once surrounded it. It became a Parish C'hurch in the 1830s but fell into decline and was eventually demolished. Price Street did not contain elegant Georgian houses but rather the smelly, insanitary courts ol back-to-back houses inhabited by the working classes of old Birmingham. In 1835 Price Street was on the northernmost edge of Birmingham.
1841, court 15, House 2. Price St.
William SHORT (Head), aged 40, Iron Caster, born Warwickshire
Mary Ann SHORT(Wife), aged 40 born outside the county.
Eliza SHORT (daughter), aged 15, born Warwickshire
Thomas SHORT (son), aged 15, born Warwickshire,
William SHORT(son), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Mary SHORT (daughter), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Emma SHORT (daughter), aged 6, born Warwickshire
James SHORT(son), aged 3, born Warwickshire
John SHORT (son), aged 1, born Warwickshire

In the 1851 census for Birmingham the only Emma SHORT I can find who is the right age for our Emma is given thus: (Census Ref. 2061/213/50)
Little Francis St. Aston
Head, Joseph ABBOTT, aged 31, Pearl Button Maker born Birmingham, Warks.
Wife, Mary Ann, aged 22 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Daughter, Eliza, aged 1 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Visitor, Emma SHORT, aged 16. born Birmingham, Warwickshire
So it appears that Emma was staying with her sister, Mary Ann ABBOTT on the night of the census.
This census was taken in April of 1851. Little Francis St. ran between Great Lister Street and Lupin St. It was just round the corner from Bloomsbury

email from Mike Short
1851 Cen. Living Little Francis Street with husband and daughter Eliza(1). Also present as visitor, sister 3.1.6 Emma SHORT bpt. 20 Apr 1835

1861 Cen. Living ----- John Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston with husband; children Eliza, Emma Alice, William Charles, Rosina & Mary Ann. Child Arthur Joseph ABBOTT b. 1858 not present assumed d.

1871 Cen. Living 123 Cattell Road, Bordsley, Aston. (Mary Ann’s occupation: boot & drapers shop) with husband; children Eliza- machinist, Emma Alice - pearl button finisher, William - pearl button maker, Rosina - domestic work, Mary Ann, Florence & Albert Joseph. Also present is adopted son, William J SEELEY, aged 16 b. Birmingham, deaf & dumb.

1881 census
115 Cattell Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3023/101 Page 9
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph ABBOTT Head M Male 50 Birmingham, Warwick, England Pearl Button Maker
Mary Ann ABBOTT Wife M Female 52 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Emma ABBOTT Dau U Female 29 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Florence ABBOTT Dau Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Albert J. ABBOTT Son Male 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Eliza ABBOTT Dau Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar

1881 Cen. living at 115 Cattell Road with husband; children Emma, Florence, & Albert Joseph. There is also a 7 year old Eliza b. Birmingham who is described ‘daughter’ but is almost certainly the child of unmarried daughter Emma

1891. Cen. Living at 17 Abbey Street, Rhuddlan, Rhyl, Flintshire, Wales. Their house is a holiday lodging house and Mary Ann is described as ‘lodging house keeper’. Husband Joseph ABBOTT is an ‘employed bath chair proprieter’. Daughter Emma is present, aged 39 unmarried waitress and son Albert Joseph is living with them and employed as a hairdresser. Also present is grand-daughter Eliza Mary Ann ABBOTT aged 17 b. Birmingham - kitchen maid.

1901 Cen. Living 5 River Street, Rhyl, with husband shown as ‘Lodging House Keeper’. Also present are three people who have not been identified: Elizabeth H MOSELEY ‘daughter’ aged 34 b. Birmingham; Florence MOSELEY grand-daughter aged 10 b. Manchester; Ernest S MOSELEY grandson aged 5 b. US America. Although described as ‘daughter’ no connection has made between Mary Ann’s children and Elizabeth H MOSELEY and her two children


Mary Ann ABBOTT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006 original research Lavinia & Geoff ISAAC
1861 Cen. Living ----- John Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston with parents
1871 Cen. Living 123 Cattell Road, Bordsley, Aston with parents Note: Cousin SH4.1A.1A.1 John William SMITH, son of mother’s sister, Eliza Stone SHORT, married a Mary Ann ABBOTT June Q 1882 and she d. after 1876/7 after b. of son but bef. 1891 Cen. This may be the same Mary Ann ABBOTT. Interested researchers may wish to obtain m. cert. See entry for Eliza Stone SHORT


Florence ABBOTT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006 original research Lavinia & Geoff ISAAC
1871 Cen. Living 123 Cattell Road, Bordsley, Aston with parents
1881 census
115 Cattell Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3023/101 Page 9
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph ABBOTT Head M Male 50 Birmingham, Warwick, England Pearl Button Maker
Mary Ann ABBOTT Wife M Female 52 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Emma ABBOTT Dau U Female 29 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Florence ABBOTT Dau Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Albert J. ABBOTT Son Male 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Eliza ABBOTT Dau Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar


William Charles ABBOTT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006 original research Lavinia & Geoff ISAAC
1861 Cen. Living ----- John Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston with parents
1871 Cen. Living 123 Cattell Road, Bordsley, Aston with parents. Occupation: Pearl Button Maker
Note: is a m. of a William Charles ABBOTT m. June Q 1873 Aston to either Mary Ann CADMAN or Sarah PARKES but also death of William Charles ABBOTT aged 20, d. reg. Dec 1873 Aston. Not traced on further cens.


William SHORT

Emma first appears in records m the 1841 census for Price Street in the district of St. Mary's. This census was taken in June 1841. I found this entry on 1841, Birmingham 4+, HO 107/1143 for House 2, Court 15, Price St. (Price Street seems to have run between Loveday St. and Lancaster Street more or less where St. Chad's Ringway now runs at the back of the Dental Hospital. St.Mary's Church was built as an annexe of St. Martin's from l779 onwards: elegant Georgian terraces once surrounded it. It became a Parish C'hurch in the 1830s but fell into decline and was eventually demolished. Price Street did not contain elegant Georgian houses but rather the smelly, insanitary courts ol back-to-back houses inhabited by the working classes of old Birmingham. In 1835 Price Street was on the northernmost edge of Birmingham.
1841, court 15, House 2. Price St.
William SHORT (Head), aged 40, Iron Caster, born Warwickshire
Mary Ann SHORT(Wife), aged 40 born outside the county.
Eliza SHORT (daughter), aged 15, born Warwickshire
Thomas SHORT (son), aged 15, born Warwickshire,
William SHORT(son), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Mary SHORT (daughter), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Emma SHORT (daughter), aged 6, born Warwickshire
James SHORT(son), aged 3, born Warwickshire
John SHORT (son), aged 1, born Warwickshire

Court Heneage St. (between numbers 193, 194)
Head, William SHORT, aged 20, Castor born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Wife, Mary Ann, aged 20, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
(According to the GRO Index William SHORT got married in King’s Norton in the December quarter of 1850).

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1851 Cen. Living at Court between 193 & 194 Heneage St, St Matthew Parish, Aston with wife. Occupation: Caster

1861 Cen. Living 3 Williams Buildings, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham with wife Mary Ann; children Mary Jane, James Thomas & John Edward; also present Martha HIGGS aged 23, visitor. William’s occupation; Iron Caster

1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with wife Mary Ann; children James Thomas - mechanic, John Edward, Martha Elizabeth, Ellen Elizabeth & Mary Ann Maria. William’s occupation: Iron Founder

1874 death of wife Mary Ann reg. mar Q 1874 9c 266 Eccleshall Bierlow (Near Sheffield) former West Riding of Yorkshire

m(2) after 1871, bef. 1881 Jane, b. 1830/1 Kempsey, Worcestershire

KF's 1881 census
56 Langdon St, Ecclesall Bierlow, York, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 4638/94 Page 8
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
William SHORT M Male 49 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Founder
Jane SHORT M Female 48 Kempsey, Worcester, England
John E. SHORT U Male 20 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Caster
Mary A.M. SHORT U Female 11 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
William H. SHORT Male 9 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar

1881 Cen. Living 56 Langdon Road, Ecclehall Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire with second wife Jane; and children by first wife John Edward, Mary Ann Maria, & William Henry

1891 Cen. Living 96 Albert Road, Heeley, Nether Hallam, Sheffield with second wife; daughter Mary Ann Maria; and granddaughter Lilly day aged ?7? b. Sheffield. William’s Occupation: Malleable Iron Caster

1901 Cen. Living with wife and servant at 68 Back Chesterfield Street; occupation: retired iron caster. Note wife rec. as W SHORT but age and place of birth appear to confirm Jane.


Mary Ann HADLEY

Court Heneage St. (between numbers 193, 194)
Head, William SHORT, aged 20, Castor born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Wife, Mary Ann, aged 20, born Birmingham, Warwickshire
(According to the GRO Index William SHORT got married in King’s Norton in the December quarter of 1850).

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1851 Cen. Living at Court between 193 & 194 Heneage St, St Matthew Parish, Aston with husband - occupation: Caster

1861 Cen. Living 3 Williams Buildings, 131 Northumberland Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham with husband; children Mary Jane, James Thomas & John Edward; also present Martha HIGGS aged 23, visitor. William’s occupation; Iron Caster

1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with husband; children James Thomas - mechanic, John Edward, Martha Elizabeth, Ellen Elizabeth & Mary Ann Maria. Thomas’s occupation: Iron Founder Sometime after 1871, family moved to Sheffield (then in West Riding of Yorkshire)

1874 death of Mary Ann HADLEY reg. Mary Ann SHORT Mar Q 1874 9c 266 Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield, former West Riding of Yorkshire


Mary Jane SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. Living 3 Williams Buildings, 131 Northumberland Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham with parents
No further trace


Ellen Elizabeth SHORT

census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with parents
1881 Cen. Prob rec. as Helen SHORT, domestic servant to Chief Constable of Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield
Not traced further

KF 1881 census details
7 Collegiate Crescent, Ecclesall Bierlow, York, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 4633/82 Page 8
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John JACKSON Head M Male 58 Willow, Cumberland, England Chief Constable
Sarah M. JACKSON Wife M Female 53 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Mary LAZENBY Serv U Female 27 Sheffield, York, England Gen Serv (Cook)
Helen SHORT Serv U Female 17 Birmingham, Warwick, England Serv (Genl)


William Henry SHORT

1881 Cen. Living 56 Langdon Street, Ecclehall Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire with father and stepmother
Possibly m. Eliza b. 1873/4 Gretts Green, Staffordshire
Possibly 1901 Cen living 140 Norwich Road, Walsall with wife Eliza and daughter (possible SH5.1A.5A.9.1) Doris Edith SHORT b. 1900 Walsall. Occupation: ?Furnace? Work Manager


Herbert William (Bert) GREEN

6 children?

census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (father wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with parents
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Gunmaker Driller Miller
Children known to have included Bernard Francis GREEN but no further information.


Clara ENSELL

On the 1901 census, taken Sunday 31 March, PRO 13/2832, Folio 56, Page 7 the EnselIs were still living at 27, Upper Ryland Road (the Bellbarn Tavern) and Henry is still running the pub. The entry is as follows:
Henry Ensell, Head aged 45, Beer Retailer Pub. 'own account" b. Bham, Wa.
Elzbth " ,Wife, aged 41, -
Henry " ,Son, aged 17, Clay Pipe Maker. Earth.
Elzbth " .Daughter, aged 19,
Albert " ,Son, aged 13, School,
Lily " .daughter, aged 15,
Clara " , daughter, aged 8,
Rose " , daughter, aged 5
NB No trades are given for daughters Elizabeth and Lily as they probably helped out in the pub. Henry has become a bit younger on this census. Lily was named 'Leah' on the earlier census; the name was probably dropped as too Jewish or not liked.

emigrated to Australia


Rose ENSELL

Maureen's notes:
Rose, Len & Margaret ran a milk bar in Melbourne in 1965. They used to migrate between there and Hayling Island. They died in the early 1970's/ Margaret was last heard of by me in Hayling Island about 1972. She may have married.
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Rose Ensell married a Len Naylor. They lived in Bearwood in 1933. I have a letter dated February 10th 1933, written by Len Naylor to my Great Grandfather, George Bradley (2). Rose and Len were living at 30, Dunsford Road, Bearwood. (Just off Bearwood Road and about opposite Ethel Street.) They had a small daughter, Margaret. Len enclosed a photo of Margaret on her little wooden horse. She looks about 2 years old. She has a mass of mid-brown hair.

On the 1901 census, taken Sunday 31 March, PRO 13/2832, Folio 56, Page 7 the EnselIs were still living at 27, Upper Ryland Road (the Bellbarn Tavern) and Henry is still running the pub. The entry is as follows:
Henry Ensell, Head aged 45, Beer Retailer Pub. 'own account" b. Bham, Wa.
Elzbth " ,Wife, aged 41, -
Henry " ,Son, aged 17, Clay Pipe Maker. Earth.
Elzbth " .Daughter, aged 19,
Albert " ,Son, aged 13, School,
Lily " .daughter, aged 15,
Clara " , daughter, aged 8,
Rose " , daughter, aged 5
NB No trades are given for daughters Elizabeth and Lily as they probably helped out in the pub. Henry has become a bit younger on this census. Lily was named 'Leah' on the earlier census; the name was probably dropped as too Jewish or not liked.