not found on the 1881 census. Had they already left for Australia by then?
census details from Mike Short emailed 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank) & Herbert William (Bert)1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank), & Herbert William (Bert), Sidney, Cyril, Walter& Maude. Occupation: Brassfounder. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Warehouse woman
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank) - Brassfounder fitter, Herbert William (Bert) - Gunmaker driller miller, Cyril - Brass chandelier maker, Walter, Hydraulic engineer turner, Maude, Gertrude, Stanley, Dorothy, Raymond & Hilda J. Francis William’s occupation: Brassfounder Fitter. Note: Sidney is not present on and has not been traced. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Papier Mache Maker
In the following year, 1861 Eliza appears on the 1861 census as 11 mths old living with her parents, George Bradley, aged 31 a Paper Maker born in Newbury, Berks, and her mother Emma, aged 25, and her older sister,Emma aged 5. The full address is given as 9, Eden Place, Guildford Street. (See 'Emma Short and the Shorts' p.3-4). Since this 1861 census was taken on April 27th Eliza should really be 1 year old.
On the 1871 census Eliza aged 11 is recorded as living at 21 Walsall Road with her parents, and her sisters Emma aged 15, and Clara aged 7 and her brother George aged 5.
not found on the 1881 census. Had they already left for Australia by then?
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (husband wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with husband; children Francis Paul (Frank) & Herbert William (Bert)1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with husband - Brassfounder; and children Francis Paul (Frank), & Herbert William (Bert), Sydney (or Sidney), Cyril, Walter& Maude. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Warehouse woman
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with husband - Brassfounder fitter; children Francis Paul (Frank) - Brassfounder fitter, Herbert William (Bert) - Gunmaker driller miller, Cyril - Brass chandelier maker, Walter, Hydraulic engineer turner, Maude, Gertrude, Stanley, Dorothy, Raymond & Hilda J. Note: Sydney (or Sidney) is not present on and has not been traced. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Papier Mache Maker
Francis Paul (Frank) GREEN KNOWN AS HILL
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (father wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with parents
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Brassfounder Fitter
Emigrated Australia
Quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL as did brother Stanley and, possibly, Cyril
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. not traced
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Brass Chandelier Maker
Emigrated Australia
Brothers Stanley and Francis Paul (Frank) quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL, thought that Cyril may have done also
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Hydraulic Engineer Turner
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
Quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL as did brother Francis Paul (Frank) and, possibly, Cyril
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
b. around 1829 Newbury, Berkshire.
Parents unknown but mother possibly a servant girl named BRADLEY and father a gardener called PACE or PEACE but George showed father as Taplin BRADLEY
on m. cert. m(1) 5 Feb 1854 Harborne, Staffordshire
Emma SHORT b. 10 Nov 1834, Aston, Birmingham 1861 Cen. Living at 9 Eden Place, 49 Guildford Street, Aston St Georges, Birmingham with wife and children Emma Catherine & Eliza Ann. Occupation: Paper Maker 1871 Cen. Living ‘dwelling’ 21 Walsall Road, Aston Manor, Birmingham with wife and children Emma Catherine, Eliza Ann, Clara & George. Occupation: Paper Mache Maker 23 April 1880 deserted wife and emigrated to Australia with son George and ‘perhaps’ his ‘mistress’ and her daughter, arriving 23 Jul 1880.
The story of George BRADLEY’s marriage to Emma SHORTs, their separation and his life in Australia can be found after this table 1891 Cen. son George BRADLEY is back in England, has married and has a child but father George has not been traced. Did he return at the same time as his son, or later? ptnr(2) bef. 1901, Amelia ?PERRY? 1901 Cen. George BRADLEY at 23 Upper Ryland Road, Edgbaston & Harborne with Amelia listed as ‘SHORT, wife’ and living with three children: Alice PERRY described as daughter, ?Victoria? PERRY aged 2 shown as daughter-in-law, and three-month old John T PERRY described as son-in-law. This suggests that the older child is Amelia’s and the younger two are children of George BRADLEY & Amelia but that they are not married d. 19 Dec 1906, 23 Upper Ryland Road, Edgbaston & Harborne
Emma first appears in records m the 1841 census for Price Street in the district of St. Mary's. This census was taken in June 1841. I found this entry on 1841, Birmingham 4+, HO 107/1143 for House 2, Court 15, Price St. (Price Street seems to have run between Loveday St. and Lancaster Street more or less where St. Chad's Ringway now runs at the back of the Dental Hospital. St.Mary's Church was built as an annexe of St. Martin's from l779 onwards: elegant Georgian terraces once surrounded it. It became a Parish C'hurch in the 1830s but fell into decline and was eventually demolished. Price Street did not contain elegant Georgian houses but rather the smelly, insanitary courts ol back-to-back houses inhabited by the working classes of old Birmingham. In 1835 Price Street was on the northernmost edge of Birmingham.
1841, court 15, House 2. Price St.
William SHORT (Head), aged 40, Iron Caster, born Warwickshire
Mary Ann SHORT(Wife), aged 40 born outside the county.
Eliza SHORT (daughter), aged 15, born Warwickshire
Thomas SHORT (son), aged 15, born Warwickshire,
William SHORT(son), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Mary SHORT (daughter), aged 10, born Warwickshire
Emma SHORT (daughter), aged 6, born Warwickshire
James SHORT(son), aged 3, born Warwickshire
John SHORT (son), aged 1, born WarwickshireIn the 1851 census for Birmingham the only Emma SHORT I can find who is the right age for our Emma is given thus: (Census Ref. 2061/213/50)
Little Francis St. Aston
Head, Joseph ABBOTT, aged 31, Pearl Button Maker born Birmingham, Warks.
Wife, Mary Ann, aged 22 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Daughter, Eliza, aged 1 born Birmingham, Warwickshire
Visitor, Emma SHORT, aged 16. born Birmingham, Warwickshire
So it appears that Emma was staying with her sister, Mary Ann ABBOTT on the night of the census.
This census was taken in April of 1851. Little Francis St. ran between Great Lister Street and Lupin St. It was just round the corner from Bloomsbury1861 Cen. Living at 9 Eden Place, 49 Guildford Street, Aston St Georges, Birmingham with husband and children Emma Catherine & Eliza Ann. George’s occupation: Paper Maker
1871 Cen. Living dwelling 21 Walsall Road, Aston Manor, Birmingham with husband and children Emma Catherine, Eliza Ann, Clara & George. George’s (sen) occupation: Paper Mache Maker
In the following year, 1861 Eliza appears on the 1861 census as 11 mths old living with her parents, George Bradley, aged 31 a Paper Maker born in Newbury, Berks, and her mother Emma, aged 25, and her older sister,Emma aged 5. The full address is given as 9, Eden Place, Guildford Street. (See 'Emma Short and the Shorts' p.3-4). Since this 1861 census was taken on April 27th Eliza should really be 1 year old.On the 1871 census Eliza aged 11 is recorded as living at 21 Walsall Road with her parents, and her sisters Emma aged 15, and Clara aged 7 and her brother George aged 5.
1881 Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Paul BARTLETT Head M Male 41 Stoke Prior, Worcester, England Packer In Button Factory
Sylvia BARTLETT Wife M Female 38 Manchester, Lancashire, England Warehouse Woman In Factory
George YOUNG Step Son Male 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England Tool Making App
Emma BRADLEY Boarder U Female 47 Birmingham, Warwick, England Button Carder
Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Court 3 House Dymoke St, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3015/111 Page 91891 Census
RG12/2432 page 24 Civil Parish of Aston, Municipal Ward of Brook Parish of St. Mary
Webster Street (House number and house name is unreadable)
George BRADLEY Head M M 24 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed Brass Founder & Steel Turner
Lucy BRADLEY Wife M F 28 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed P* Button Carder
George BRADLEY Son U M 6mths Birmingham, Warwickshire
Emma Bradley mother M F 55 Birmingham, Warwickshire unreadable notes in employment columndied Sep Qtr 1891
presuming this is entry from 1881 census
26 Caroline Street
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printerbased on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added
b 184828 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.
Presuming that Edward married a Widow as 1881 census shows 3 children with the surname "Smith"
1881 census
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
LDS 1881 census shows Edmund W as name. No Edmund is shown in this area within reasonable dates. There is an Edward William which matches. Presume Edmund is mis-transcribed.
Birth Index ref:
Frater Edward William B 1867 Dec Pancras 1b 1001881 census
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
Birth Index entry
Frater Annie Matilda B 1871 June Pancras 1b 1201881 census
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
James taken from BMD Entry
1881 census
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
1881 census
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: PrinterBirths Register Details
Frater Frederick Charles B 1879 Sept Pancras 1b 121
Is he their son, Mary's son or is it an error
presuming this is entry from 1881 census
26 Caroline Street
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
Is he their daughter, Mary's daughter or is it an error
presuming this is entry from 1881 census
26 Caroline Street
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
Is he their son, Mary's son or is it an error
presuming this is entry from 1881 census
26 Caroline Street
Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document
servantIs this Morris?
The Times
From The London Gazette April 22 1842 pg 4 Issue 17965 col D
Scotch Sequestrations
Morris FRATER , carrier, carrier, April 28, May 21, at 1o'clock, at the house of Daniel McGregor, Cumbernauld.This is of interest because a son of this Morris (also called Morris) married an Elizabeth McGregor daughter of Daniel McGregor. Both children of Cumbernauld.
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document
Servant
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document (and Karen Leigh Hemmingway)
from Karen Leigh Hemmingway
from Brian Reeds
Regarding Helen DICK who became a FRATER:My wife is a FRATER and showed me the following about Helen from a death register:
Helen FRATER - Pauper - Widow of John FRATER - Labourer - died 9th January 1867 at Redding, Polmont, age 87 years.
Her parents were given as Morris DICK, Labourer (dec) and Christian DICK maiden surname GRAY (dec)
The informant was Alexander FRATER, Son, of Redding, Polmont.
from Brian Reeds
Regarding Helen DICK who became a FRATER:My wife is a FRATER and showed me the following about Helen from a death register:
Helen FRATER - Pauper - Widow of John FRATER - Labourer - died 9th January 1867 at Redding, Polmont, age 87 years.
Her parents were given as Morris DICK, Labourer (dec) and Christian DICK maiden surname GRAY (dec)
The informant was Alexander FRATER, Son, of Redding, Polmont.
Skidmore?