Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Notes


Richard BIGGS

KF notes 10.10.2005
The birth details of Richard are based on the assumption that the family followed a naming convention. Richard's first born is Richard Ambrey BIGGS. It has been assumed by KF that Ambrey was the maiden name of a RA's Grandmother. This meant that either Richard's mother was an AMBREY or Mary's.
Research has found a Richard of the right time period whose father was a Richard BIGGS and mother was an AMBREY. This Richard had a brother Henry who was a Policeman and this Richard was also a Policeman. The dates at which Richard was a policeman does match up.
I am very confident that the birth and pedigree of this Richard are correct and this family tree has been correctly extended.

From Mr P R Evans
Searchroom Archivist gloucester archivist
Our ref: EN/JLM/PRE/HN

Dear Mr Frater

Thank you for your e-mail. I have checked the alphabetical register of
rural constabulary (Q/Y/1/1) and the only Richard Biggs listed in the 1840s
joined on 11 September 1843. His warrant number was 595 and he joined
Gloucestershire policy force at the age of 23; he had previously been a
labourer and he originated from English Bicknor, Coleford in
Gloucestershire. It is written that he was of good character, but was
discharge from the force on 1 October 1844 for visiting a girl in a
gentleman's house without his knowledge. He was reinstated on 24 January
1845, with a new warrant number: 720. He was now aged 24 and again listed
his prior occupation as a labourer and came from English Bicknor. He served
until 31st January 1850, where his character was noted as 'indifferent' and
the reason for dismissal was listed as drunkenness. Although this gentleman
would have been serving in 1847-1848, it is likely this is not your
great-great grandfather because the places of residence do not match and his
prior profession was not a butcher.

(KF note - I think the butcher part is a red herring)


Mary TOWNSEND

Possible entry for Mary Biggs in 1881 census provided by John W Cooper
52, Constellation Street, Roath is a widow Mary Biggs b.abt.1824 in Nailsworth, Gloucestershire. She is with two unmarried children: Mary E. Biggs b. abt 1858 in Chepstow and Thomas b. abt. 1863 in Roath.

Possible entry for Mary Biggs in 1901 census provided by John W Cooper
Mary Biggs is still in Roath in 1901 aged 76. Her son Thomas aged 37 is also in Roath at a different address with wife Elizabeth aged 35 and children Thomas 12, Elizabeth 9, Archibald 4 and Christopher 2.


James John FRATER

Cannot find a BMD index reference. The closest is
Name District Vol Pg
Fraser John Chelsea III 62

1871 census
RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91
Household schedule number:698
Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862]
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher
Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London
Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London

1881 census entry
Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son

Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown.
birth year is 1846

28 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater. This is source for Christine.


Adeleide

1871 census
RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91
Household schedule number:698
Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862]
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher
Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London
Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London

1881 census entry
Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son


Ada Elizabeth FRATER

Frater Ada Elizabeth B 1869 March Islington 1b 237

1871 census
RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91
Household schedule number:698
Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862]
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher
Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London
Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London

1881 census entry
Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son


James Britton FRATER

Not sure if this person exists. In the IGI but not in the BMD index or 1881 Census. But then again, his father isn't in the index either.


Florence Martha FRATER

1881 census entry
Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son


Thomas Arthur FRATER

1881 census entry
Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son


George BRADLEY

Maureen shows George living at 6 Copeland Place, Upper Webster Street, Aston.

Sailed to Australia on 23 April 1880 arriving Rockhampton 23 July 1880. Passenger List shows
BRADLEY CLARA 14 FREE PASSAGE (incorrect name. This is the daughter of George's mistress)
BRADLEY GEORGE 44 ASSISTED PASSAGE
BRADLEY EMMA 44 ASSISTED PASSAGE (incorrect name. Emma was at home in Birmingham. This is George's mistress believed to be Mrs Amelia MASON born CHURCHILL)
BRADLEY GEORGE 11 ASSISTED PASSAGE (age is incorrect. Probably lied to get reduced passage costs)
George Sr & Jr returned arround 1887. It is believed that the mistress did as well but there is no proof.

On the 1871 census Eliza aged 11 is recorded as living at 21 Walsall Road with her parents, and her sisters Emma aged 15, and Clara aged 7 and her brother George aged 5.

1891 Census
RG12/2432 page 24 Civil Parish of Aston, Municipal Ward of Brook Parish of St. Mary
Webster Street (House number and house name is unreadable)
George BRADLEY Head M M 24 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed Brass Founder & Steel Turner
Lucy BRADLEY Wife M F 28 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed P* Button Carder
George BRADLEY Son U M 6mths Birmingham, Warwickshire
Emma Bradley mother M F 55 Birmingham, Warwickshire unreadable notes in employment column

1901 Cen. Living 6 Inkerman Street, Aston Manor, Birmingham with wife, children George Arthur, Lucy, Elsie, Leonard & Gladys. George’s occupation: Brasswork turner
Note: were two further children b. unknown died as infants - Rose & Clara. They may be the Rose d. aged 1 Sep 1903, Aston and Clara d. aged 1 Sep 1906, Aston - but note gap betw. births of Children Lucy & Elsie.


Lucy BRADBURY

born somwhere between 1860and 1865? (not registered)

1871 Cen. Living Back of 4 Ward Street, house 3, with widowed father- cordwainer

Is this Emma in 1881? Age will be totally wrong but in the right geographic area
87 William St,Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3039/61 Page14
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas JOHNSON Head M Male 42 B'ham, Warwick, England Button Tool Maker
Ellen JOHNSON Wife M Female 41 Harborne, Stafford, England Button Tool Maker Wife
Arthur G. JOHNSON Son U Male 15 B'ham, Warwick, England Button Tool Maker
Thomas G. JOHNSON Son U Male 13 B'ham, Warwick, England Office Boy
Josiah H. JOHNSON Son U Male 11 B'ham, Warwick, England Scholar
Samuel JOHNSON Son Male 7 B'ham, Warwick, England Scholar
John JOHNSON Son Male 4 B'ham, Warwick, England Scholar
Emma BRADBURY Servant M Female 40 Worcester, Worcester, England General Domestic Servant

1891 Census
RG12/2432 page 24 Civil Parish of Aston, Municipal Ward of Brook Parish of St. Mary
Webster Street (House number and house name is unreadable)
George BRADLEY Head M M 24 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed Brass Founder & Steel Turner
Lucy BRADLEY Wife M F 28 Birmingham, Warwickshire employed P* Button Carder
George BRADLEY Son U M 6mths Birmingham, Warwickshire
Emma Bradley mother M F 55 Birmingham, Warwickshire unreadable notes in employment column

1901 Cen. Living 6 Inkerman Street, Aston Manor, Birmingham with husband - brasswork turner; children George Arthur, Lucy, Elsie, Leonard & Gladys.
Note: were two further children b. unknown died as infants - Rose & Clara. They may be the Rose d. aged 1 Sep 1903, Aston and Clara d. aged 1 Sep 1906, Aston - but note gap betw. births of children Lucy & Elsie.


Lucy BRADLEY

1901 Cen. Living 6 Inkerman Street, Aston Manor, Birmingham with parents


Thomas GORDON

Father's name from the Glamorgan Parish Record

father's name comes from "marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index is shown as "Francis". Taken the OPR name as correct.


William DAVID

FreeBMD has Ellen married in Qtr Jun 1890
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 729
Partners could be John Lewis or William Davies from FreeBMD data


Ellen GALLOWAY

FreeBMD shows it in Qtr Mar 1870
District Pontypridd Vol 11a Page 340

FreeBMD has Ellen married in Qtr Jun 1890
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 729
Partners could be John Lewis or William Davi from FreeBMD data
Here is the 1881 census details if it is of any help Dwelling: 16 Butcher Shop Dunraven Street Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 87 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GALLOWAY M 70 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth GALLOWAY M 50 F Scotland Rel: Wife Stuart GALLOWAY U 16 M Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Collier Margaret GALLOWAY 14 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ellen GALLOWAY 11 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Francis GALLOWAY 8 M Glamorgan, Wales


John HIER

Dwelling: 13 Scott St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 61 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HIER M 27 M Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Elizabeth HIER M 27 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife Emma J. HIER U 7 F Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary HIER 4 F Derri, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: DaurAmelia HIER 3 m F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales I hope this helps. Good luck with your search. Deborah


Elizabeth

Dwelling: 13 Scott St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 61 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HIER M 27 M Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Elizabeth HIER M 27 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife Emma J. HIER U 7 F Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary HIER 4 F Derri, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: DaurAmelia HIER 3 m F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales I hope this helps. Good luck with your search. Deborah

1901 census
RG13/5012 f64 p36 ? 3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do


Emma J HIER

Dwelling: 13 Scott St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 61 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HIER M 27 M Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Elizabeth HIER M 27 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife Emma J. HIER U 7 F Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary HIER 4 F Derri, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: DaurAmelia HIER 3 m F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales


Amelia HIER

Dwelling: 13 Scott St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 61 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HIER M 27 M Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Elizabeth HIER M 27 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife Emma J. HIER U 7 F Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary HIER 4 F Derri, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: DaurAmelia HIER 3 m F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales


Annie HIER

RG13/5012 f64 p36 ? 3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do


David HIER

RG13/5012 f64 p36 ? 3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do


George GALLOWAY

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library

1881 Census
Dwelling: 145 Dumfries St. Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 133 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GALLOWAY M 31 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Emma GALLOWAY M 31 F Somerset, England Rel: Wife George GALLOWAY 10 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William GALLOWAY 8 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Archibald GALLOWAY 5 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith GALLOWAY 3 F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales

1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 4
20 Dumfries Street
George Carpenter, Boarder, 19, Coalminer, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
(with Denby & Cox families)

The details of the above 2 George's don't match with DOB. May not be the same poerson? (2.8.2002) So parental link is shown disproved. but likely as stayed with Denby & Cox family?


Sarah DAYE

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library


William Henry GALLOWAY

FreeBMD has Francis Galloway born Qtr Dec 1872
District Pontypridd Vol 11a Pg 352

FreeBMD has William Henry married in Qtr Sep 1895
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 749
Mary Elizabeth Smith

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library

1881 Census
Dwelling: 145 Dumfries St. Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 133 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GALLOWAY M 31 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Emma GALLOWAY M 31 F Somerset, England Rel: Wife George GALLOWAY 10 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William GALLOWAY 8 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Archibald GALLOWAY 5 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith GALLOWAY 3 F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales

1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 5 or 6 (both are down as separate page numbers)
22 Dumfries Street
John Galloway, Head, 41, Colliery Roadman, Scotland, English & Welsh speaker
Emma Galloway, Wife, 41, England, English speaker
William H Galloway, 18, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Archibald Galloway, 15, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Edith Galloway, 13, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
David Galloway, 6, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Harry Sykes, Cousin, 19, coalminer, England - Stoke Gifford (Gafford), English speaker


Mary Elizabeth SMITH

FreeBMD has William Henry married in Qtr Sep 1895
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 749
Mary Elizabeth Smith

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library


Archibald GALLOWAY

1881 Census
Dwelling: 145 Dumfries St. Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 133 Page 31 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GALLOWAY M 31 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Emma GALLOWAY M 31 F Somerset, England Rel: Wife George GALLOWAY 10 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William GALLOWAY 8 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Archibald GALLOWAY 5 M Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edith GALLOWAY 3 F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales

FreeBMD has an Archibald married in Qtr Jun 1901
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 847

1891 census
RG12/442? Pg 5 or 6 (both are down as separate page numbers)
22 Dumfries Street
John Galloway, Head, 41, Colliery Roadman, Scotland, English & Welsh speaker
Emma Galloway, Wife, 41, England, English speaker
William H Galloway, 18, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Archibald Galloway, 15, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Edith Galloway, 13, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
David Galloway, 6, coal miner, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Harry Sykes, Cousin, 19, coalminer, England - Stoke Gifford (Gafford), English speaker


Elizabeth GITSHAM

FreeBMD has an Archibald married in Qtr Jun 1901
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 847