Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Notes


Ida GALLOWAY

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 42
38C Dunraven Street
Archibald Galloway, Head, 45, Check * at colliery mines, Scotland, English speaker
Rossina Galloway, Wife, 36, Dressmaker, Bristol, English speaker
Ida Galloway, Daughter, 9, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Maud Galloway, Daughter, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker


Herbert (Hubert?) VRANCH

(based on age and area of Herbert/Hubert This is possibly him. Could Jane be Jane Carpenter sister of Francis, John & Rosina
The 1881 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 2429 - Folio 124 - Page 17 Job Branch Head M 38 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Jane Branch Wife M 28 East Harptree Edwin Branch Son 14 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Hubert Branch Son 12 Midsomer Norton George Branch Son 10 Kilmersdon Mary Branch Daur 6 Buckland Rosina Branch Daur 3 Buckland Arthur Branch Son 1 Midsomer Norton


1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 34
94 Gwendoline Street
Francis Carpenter, Head, 44, Photographer’s Agent, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Jane Carpenter, Wife, 39, Scotland - Kinross, English speaker
George E Carpenter, Son, 21, Stoker coalminer, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Elizabeth Jane Carpenter, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Charles L Carpenter, Son, 13, Messenger port, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Florence Carpenter, Daughter, 8, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Mary M Carpenter, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Herbert (Hubert?) Vranch, nephew, 22, coalminer, Somerset - Radstock, English speaker


John BARTLETT

1851 Glamorgan Census
2463 1851 CENSUS OF NEATH (LONDON ROAD). REF.H.O.107/2463, E.D.4G.
Piece: 2463 Folio: 219 Schedule: 043
Address: MEXICO ROW
ACTY ANNE HD W 31 WASHERWOMAN GLA MELINCRYDDAN (c1820)
ACTY CATHERINE DA U 10 PAUPER GLA NEATH (c1841)
ACTY DAVID SO - 7 SCHOLAR PAUPER GLA NEATH (c1844)
ACTY JOHN SO - 1 AT HOME PAUPER GLA NEATH (c1850)
GRIFFITHS SAMUEL LG U 29 MASON GLA MELINCRYDDAN (c1822)
BARTLETT JOHN LG U 22 GARDENER GLS CHELTENHAM (c1829)

1861 Glamorgan census
4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET JOHN HD M 32 GARDENER GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET ELIZABETH WI M 29 - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY ANN DA U 6 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY E. DA U 4 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. DA U 7M - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY A. VR U 20 - GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. VR U 17 - GLS PRESTBURY
Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

1881 census

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John BARTLETT Head M Male 56 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Gardener (Dom)
Elizabeth BARTLETT Wife M Female 56 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Gardeners Wife
Jestyn BARTLETT Son U Male 13 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Gertrude BARTLETT Daur U Female 10 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling 29 Henry Street Census Place Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342286 Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5340 / 66 Page Number 43


Elizabeth HOPKINS

1861 Glamorgan census
4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET JOHN HD M 32 GARDENER GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET ELIZABETH WI M 29 - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY ANN DA U 6 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY E. DA U 4 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. DA U 7M - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY A. VR U 20 - GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. VR U 17 - GLS PRESTBURY

1881 Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
John BARTLETT Head M Male 56 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Gardener (Dom)
Elizabeth BARTLETT Wife M Female 56 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Gardeners Wife
Jestyn BARTLETT Son U Male 13 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Gertrude BARTLETT Daur U Female 10 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Dwelling 29 Henry Street, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO Reference RG11 Piece/Folio 5340/66 Page 43

Surname obtained from marriage lookup made by Sue Waller to find marriage reference of John & Elizabeth Bartlett
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1852 Bartlett John Swansea 11a 688 Hopkins Elizabeth Swansea 11a 688

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.


Mary Elizabeth BARTLETT

1861 Glamorgan census
4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET JOHN HD M 32 GARDENER GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET ELIZABETH WI M 29 - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY ANN DA U 6 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY E. DA U 4 SCHOLAR GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. DA U 7M - GLA NEATH 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET MARY A. VR U 20 - GLS PRESTBURY 4085 065B 086 HENRY ST.20 BARTLET HANNAH S. VR U 17 - GLS PRESTBURY
Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

BMD shows that this is the most likely marriage
Marriages Jun 1875
BARTLETT Mary Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 540
possible husbands are:
Melbourne Henry Lambeth 1d 540
Mitchell John Lambeth 1d 540


Letitia Jane BARTLETT

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

Wales in 1881 Census. Dwelling: No 16 Zinc St Census Place: Roath, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342271 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5285 Folio 72 Page 51
Richard BIGGS M 32 M Bisley, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Railway Engine Driver Margaret BIGGS M 24 F Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Wife Gwendoline BIGGS 5 F Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Edgar BIGGS 3 M Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Justin BIGGS 2 M Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Henry BIGGS 1 M Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son
Letitia BARTLETT U 17 F Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Visitor Occ: Dressmaker Lewis MORGAN U 21 M Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Boarder Occ: Railway Engine Fireman Auther HINDER U 22 M Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Lodger Occ: Railway Engine Fireman


Louisa BARTLETT

Possible Marriages Jun 1904
Bartlett Louisa Cardiff 11a 537
possible husbands
Bragg William James Cardiff 11a 537
Simpson Anthony Cardiff 11a 537

But is this her death?
Deaths Jun 1909
BARTLETT Louisa 51 Cardiff 11a 224

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

Possible 1881 census entry
James LOVELUCK Head M Male 40 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales Ship Broker Commision Agent
Margaretta M. LOVELUCK Wife M Female 40 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales
William V. LOVELUCK Son U Male 17 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales Clerk To Shipt...
James C. LOVELUCK Son U Male 14 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Mary E.O. LOVELUCK Daur Female 13 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales
Rosina M. LOVELUCK Daur Female 11 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales
John E. LOVELUCK Son Male 8 Aberavan, Glamorgan, Wales
Louisa BARTLETT Serv U Female 15 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales General Servant (Domestic)
Dwelling Custom House, Margam, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 5334/57 Page Number 10

Possible marriages are:
Marriages Jun 1904
Bartlett Louisa Cardiff 11a 537
possible husbands
Bragg William James Cardiff 11a 537
Simpson Anthony Cardiff 11a 537


Gertrude BARTLETT

Possible marriages are
Marriages Mar 1907
BARTLETT Gertrude Neath 11a 1148
JONES Abner Neath 11a 1148
Mortimer John Neath 11a

Other possibles are:
Marriages Mar 1912
Bartlett Gertrude Morgan Pontypridd 11a
Morgan Edgar Bartlett Pontypridd 11a 732

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.

1881 Census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
John BARTLETT Head M Male 56 Cheltenham, Gloucester, England Gardener (Dom)
Elizabeth BARTLETT Wife M Female 56 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Gardeners Wife
Jestyn BARTLETT Son U Male 13 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Gertrude BARTLETT Daur U Female 10 Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Dwelling 29 Henry Street, Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO Reference RG11 Piece/Folio 5340/66 Page 43


Alice BARTLETT

Is this her death record, explaining why she is not in the 1881 census
Deaths Sep 1876
Bartlett Alice 3 Neath 11a 280

Extracted from the Parish Register Indexes for St. Thomas - Neath as published by the GFHS.
Margaret Ann BARTLETT Dau of John ( a Gardener ) and Elizabeth baptised 22/10/1854 Other children of the same parents:
Hannah Sophia (20/4/1863);
Letucia Jane (20/4/1863);
Mary Elizabeth (20/4/1863); Alice ( 3/7/1876);
Gertrude ( 7/2/1871);
Iestin Hopkin ( 13/4/1868); Louisa ( 15/4/1867); The family is shown as being of Neath in most cases but for the baptism of Alice an address of 8 Henry St. is given. The burial indexes give a John as being buried 24/9/1880 aged 56 but there is no Elizabeth shown. After about 1850 there were no "new" graves opened in Neath Churchyard and although burials may be shown in the Neath- St. Thomas P R the actual burial place may be in Llantwit Churchyard.


Francis (Frank) GALLOWAY

Known to be at this address in 1905.

Married in same Qtr as Francis Galloway. Family members have been known to have double weddings. Could this be another case? Is he a brother to Francis?

FreeBMD has Francis Galloway born Qtr Dec 1872
District Pontypridd Vol 11a Pg 357

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library

Here is the 1881 census details if it is of any help Dwelling: 16 Butcher Shop Dunraven Street Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 87 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GALLOWAY M 70 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth GALLOWAY M 50 F Scotland Rel: Wife Stuart GALLOWAY U 16 M Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Collier Margaret GALLOWAY 14 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ellen GALLOWAY 11 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Francis GALLOWAY 8 M Glamorgan, Wales

1901 census
RG13/5012 f64 p36 ? 3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 38
16 Dunraven Street
George Galloway, Head, 77, Retired Butcher, Scotland, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 53, Scotland, English speaker
Frank Galloway, Son, 18, Collier, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker


Mary HIER

FreeBMD has Francis & Frank married in Qtr Sep 1894
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 720

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library

Dwelling: 13 Scott St Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 61 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HIER M 27 M Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Head Elizabeth HIER M 27 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife Emma J. HIER U 7 F Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Daur Mary HIER 4 F Derri, Glamorgan, Wales Rel: DaurAmelia HIER 3 m F Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales

FreeBMD has Francis & Frank married in Qtr Sep 1894
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 720

1901 census
RG13/5012 f64 p36 ? 3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do


Ronald G GALLOWAY

3 Bulls Row , Treherbert Frank GALLOWAY 28 Coal Hewer b Glam, Treherbert Mary wife 24 b do Ronald G son 5 b do Hector F son 1 b do Elizabeth HIER m-in-law Mar. 48 b Newport, Mon Annie sis-in-law 17 b Treherbert Glam David bro-in-law 10 b do


Frank PRATT

Known to be at this address in 1905.
1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 2
10 Halifax Terrace
Frank Pratt, Head, 28, Stationary Engine driver, Devonshire Broadc?t, English & Welsh speaker
Eleanor Pratt, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English & Welsh speaker
Frank Ernest Pratt, Son, 4, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Beatrice Pratt, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Cyril Mervyn Pratt, Son, 11 mths, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker


Eleanor

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 2
10 Halifax Terrace
Frank Pratt, Head, 28, Stationary Engine driver, Devonshire Broadc?t, English & Welsh speaker
Eleanor Pratt, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English & Welsh speaker
Frank Ernest Pratt, Son, 4, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Beatrice Pratt, Daughter, 3, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker
Cyril Mervyn Pratt, Son, 11 mths, Glamorgan - Glyneath, English speaker


Frederick (Fred) CARPENTER

Known to be at this address in 1905.

This could be the Frederick Carpenter number 483 in this PAF. Birth dates are calculated to within 10 years of each other

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library

1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Glastonbury Parish - Res: Edgarly Road - Piece 2451 - Folio 14 - Page 19 - Schedule 95
John Carpenter Head M 34 Ag Lab East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Wife M 36 Laundress Glastonbury
Jesse Carpenter Son 12 Scholar Glastonbury
Edith Carpenter Daur 10 Scholar Glastonbury
Lena Carpenter Daur 9 Scholar Glastonbury
Alice Carpenter Daur 5 Scholar Glastonbury
Minnie Carpenter Daur 2 Glastonbury

The 1881 Census - Chew Magna Parish - Res: Copping Hill - Piece 2426 - Folio 28 - Page 24
John Carpenter Head M 44 General Labourer Harptree Emma Carpenter Wife M 45 Glastonbury Minnie Carpenter Daur 11 Scholar Glastonbury George Carpenter Son 8 Scholar Glastonbury Frederic Carpenter Son 6 Scholar Glastonbury

1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 30
72 Gwendoline Street
Jesse Carpenter, Head, 32, Coal miner, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
Margaret Carpenter, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Aberdare, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Son, 6, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Francis Carpenter, Son, 2, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Edward Carpenter, Son, 1, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Lodger, widower, 54, Coal Tipper, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Frederick Carpenter, Lodger, 17, Coal Miner, Somerset - Bishop Sutton, English speaker


Elizabeth Ann HOBBS

details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library