Descendants of Thomas Short b abt 1776

Citations


Jesse CARPENTER

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg.
mentioned in Internement document of child.

21891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.
copies with Kerry Frater.

3Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 34645.

4Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 34645.
Burial Thursday 4:15PM plot U6-19 with daughter Doris. signed by Edward Carpenter. Rev Young presiding.

5"marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library.

61891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.

71891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.

8Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 34645.


Margaret ABRAHAM

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 48584 & RG12/4421 Pg 30.
includes 1891 census details.

2Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 48584.

3Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 48584.
Buried 14:45. Rev H W Davies presiding. Plot U6-19. Purchased 16 April 1887. Reopen at 9 feet with 34645 (husband Jesse). Signed by Istwyn Carpenter on 5 March 1956.

4"marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library.

51891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.
copies with Kerry Frater.

6Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 48584.


Frederick Edward CARPENTER

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 5031, 21 Nov 1883.
buried Wednesday at 4 pm. Plot not given but 3 feet depth is. Signed by Jesse Carpenter.


Griffith Ivor CARPENTER

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 6876, 16 Apr 1887.
burial Monday at 4:15pm. Rev. H Rosser in attendance. Plot U6-19 at 9 feet. Jessie signed with a mark.
Burial Grant awarded may 7 1887.


Doris CARPENTER

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 14567.
buried saturday 3:30pm plot U6-19. Rev J Williams in attendance. buried with Griffith Ivor, Francis Joseph, and George Edwin. Signed by Jesse Carpenter 17 Aug 1899.


George Edwin CARPENTER

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 11022.
buried saturday at 3:30 plot U6-19 with Griffith Ivor and Francis Joseph. Rev Rosser in attendance. Jesse signed it.


Francis Joseph CARPENTER

11891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.
copies with Kerry Frater.

2Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 10697.
buried Tuesday at 4pm plot U6-19 with Griffith Ivor. Rev Rosser in attendance. signed by Jesse Carpenter.

31891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.


John CARPENTER

11891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.
copies with Kerry Frater.

21891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.


Edward CARPENTER

11891 Census Details, RG12/4421 Pg 30.
copies with Kerry Frater.


Edgar Ambrey BIGGS

1Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, Notice of Internment in the burial ground of the parish of Ystradyfodwg, 35153.

2Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 35153.
buried 14:15 Rev L C Simmons presiding. plot A805. purchased by Idris Biggs (miner) of 6 St Albans Terrace, Blaencwm. 9 feet. signed by Idris Biggs on 12 Sep 1930.

31901 census details, RG13/5057 Fo:16 Pg: 24, 31 Aug 2002.

41901 census details, RG13/5057 Fo:16 Pg: 24, 31 Aug 2002.

5Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 35153.

6Burial Board for the Parish of Ystradyfodwg in the County of Glamorgan, Treorci Library - Notice of Internment MicroFiche, 35153.


Oliver FRATER

11901 census details, RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22, 31 Aug 2002.
details updated from 1901 census. This states born North Islington which does not match other docs

No St Pancras entry for 1851 but this is the closest
BMD Fiche update 17.4.2004
Frater Oliver B 1851 Dec St Giles I 54
Birth date from IGI entry of familysearch.org.

2BMD, possible marriage, 3 Jan 2003.
Marriages Mar 1869
FRATER Oliver Bethnal Green 1c 511

copy of marriage cert from Dorrell
No. 202 March 21 1869 Oliver Frater 19 Bachelo French Polisher living 10 South Street Father James Frater Brassturner
Ellen Butler 17 Spinster living 3 South Street father George Butler Carpenter
signed by Oliver and mark of Ellen. Witnesses George Butler & Mary Ann Foster. (or may be mis-spelling of Frater).

3Marriage Certificate, 4 May 2004.
Document or copy held by Kerry Frater.
Marriage certificate of Oliver to Ellen.

4Marriage Certificate, No 202 21.3.1869 Bethnal Green, 4 May 2004.

5Birth Certificates, FC270172, 18 Dec 2002.
Taken from documents held by Kerry Frater.
Birth certificate of son Edward.

61901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.

71901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


Ellen BUTLER

11901 census details, RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22, 31 Aug 2002.
data updated from 1901 census. birth shown North Islington which differs from prev. docs.

2BMD, possible marriage, 3 Jan 2003.
Marriages Mar 1869
FRATER Oliver Bethnal Green 1c 511

copy of marriage cert from Dorrell
No. 202 March 21 1869 Oliver Frater 19 Bachelo French Polisher living 10 South Street Father James Frater Brassturner
Ellen Butler 17 Spinster living 3 South Street father George Butler Carpenter
signed by Oliver and mark of Ellen. Witnesses George Butler & Mary Ann Foster. (or may be mis-spelling of Frater).

3Marriage Certificate, No 202 21.3.1869 Bethnal Green, 4 May 2004.
Document or copy held by Kerry Frater.

4Birth Certificates, FC270172, 18 Dec 2002.
Taken from documents held by Kerry Frater.
Birth certificate of son Edward Frater.

51901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


William Charles FRATER

1BMD, BMD Fiche, 17 Apr 2004.
Frater William Charles D 1873 Dec Pancras 1b 95 0.


George FRATER

1BMD, 1876 Sept Islington ? ? , 29 Mar 0003.
KF looked up fiche.


Oliver FRATER

11901 census details, RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22, 31 Aug 2002.
data updated from 1901 census
BMD Fiche 17.4.2004
Frater Oliver B 1881 March Holborn 1b 815.

21901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.

31901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


Elizabeth Eliza Dundas FRATER

11901 census details, 1882 Dec Islington 1b 439 , 29 Mar 2003.
KF lookup on fiche.

21901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


Arthur Ernest FRATER

1BMD, BMD Fiche, 16 Apr 2004.
Frater Arthur Ernest B 1885 June Pancras 1b 112.

2BMD, BMD Fiche, 16 Apr 2004.
Frater Arthur Ernest D 1885 Dec Pancras 1b 78 0.


Robert FRATER

11901 census details, RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22, 31 Aug 2002.

21901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


Frederick FRATER

1BMD, 1893 March Islington 1b 197 , 29 Mar 0003.
KF lookup on fiche.

2Other Researchers, from granddaughter Diane Lewis, 6 Oct 2003.
I was told that Nan’s brother Fred, was blown to pieces on the Somme.’ It turned out that Private Frederick Frater, SR/6821, Middlesex Regiment, died on 17/1/1915, he is commemorated on the Menin Gate, Ypres, Belgium.

31901 census details, RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125, 31 Aug 2002.


James FRATER

1BMD, 17 Apr 2003.
Frater James D 1891 Sept Islington 1b 186 72.

2Other Researchers, From Christine Frater, 14 Jun 2003.
Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown.

3Marriage Certificate, 4 May 2004.
Document or copy held by Kerry Frater.
Marriage certificate of son Oliver to Ellen Butler.


Sarah Ann WELCH

1IGI Internet, Batch C147505, 28 Nov 2004, .
Source Media Type: Book.
This is the closes entry of birth to Sarah Ann that can be found. The father's name is John and shows the mother as "Sarah" no surname given.

2IGI Internet, Batch C147505, 28 Nov 2004.
This is the closes entry of birth to Sarah Ann that can be found. The father's name is John and shows the mother as "Sarah" no surname given.

3BMD, 18 Apr 2003.
Frater Sarah D 1898 June Pancras 1b 88 71.

4Other Researchers, From Christine Frater, 14 Jun 2003.
Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown.


Frederick FRATER

1BMD, BMD Fiche, 17 Apr 2004.
Frater Frederick B 1850 March Islington 3 305
Birth date from IGI familysearch.org.

2BMD, BMD Index, 17 Apr 2004.
Frater Frederick D 1887 Sept Shoreditch 1a|c 104 38.


Harry Joseph FRATER

1BMD, 21 Apr 2003.
BMD Birth Ref:
Frater Harry Joseph B 1853 Dec Pancras 1b 63
Birth date from IGI on familysearch.org.


David Charles FRATER

1Kerry Frater.

2146 Garden Suburbs.
moved there with wife Joyce to look after mother law in 1950's. Lived ther till he died.


Joyce BIGGS

1146 Garden Suburbs.

2Kerry Frater.

3146 Garden Suburbs.
from 1930 circa death.


David Charles FRATER

1146 Garden Suburbs.
moved there with wife Joyce to look after mother law in 1950's. Lived ther till he died.


Dulcie May (Maud?) BIGGS

1146 Garden Suburbs.
from circa 1930 till death.


Edward FRATER

1Birth Certificates, FC270172, 17 Dec 2002.
Taken from documents held by Kerry Frater.
Birth certificate for Edward Frater born in London. No other Edward is registered in England & Wales within a 5 year period. Only one is shown born in Scotland who is then shown as died at the age of 1.

BMD Fiche
Frater Edward B 1889 Dec Islington 1b 253.

2Birth Certificates, FC270172, 18 Dec 2002.
Birth certificate of Edward Frater.


Elizabeth LEWIS

11901 census details, RG13/5110 folio 28 Pg 2, 30 Aug 2002.


Emily Maud FRATER

1BMD, BMD, 3 Feb 2006.
Llanelly Vol 11a 2499.


Leonard FRATER

1Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

2BMD, 11a 2359, 3 Feb 2006.

3Commonwealth War Graves Commission.


Edward Jr FRATER

1Other Researchers, 11 Jun 2004.
Phone call from Clive Frater to tell me of his death.