from will of father-in-law
1. Isabella Frater or Downie, also my daughter relict of Thomas Downie, New York, America.
details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document
1841 Scottish census from ancestry.com
Civil parish: Cumbernauld County: Dunbartonshire Address: Southside Of Main Street Parish Number: 495
Household Members: Name Age
Moris Frater 30
Jean Frater 30
Isabella Frater 12
Helen Frater 10
Janet Frater 8
John Frater 4
Joseph Frater 2
Moris Frater 1
John Lawrie 20
Jean Aulch 15
email from Lucy Marian 10.4.2007
known as Jack
1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonKF 29.3.03
Found birth details on Fiche. All other Islington births at this time are of Oliver & Ellen so supposition is that so is this childA Leonard C died in Edmonton district in 1940. Is the the same Leonard C?
Frater Leonard C D 1940 Sept Edmonton 3a 1183 55 1885Military records from National Archives taken 9.8.2007
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Enrollment Papers
(front page dammed on left and right)
Charles Leonard FRATER Corps: Roemont
Name: Leonard Charles *
Address: 4 Osman Road, Tottenham
British: Yes
Age: 33 yrs 7 months
Trade: Shop Assistant
Married: Yes
Served in any branch: no
(next is a declation signed by L C Frater - very similar hand writing to my dad D C Frater)Page 2
Name: Leonard Charles FRATER
Age: 33 yrs 7mths Height (is faint but looks like) 5 ft 3
Next of Kin
Mrs Herriott Frater 4 Osman Road, Tottenham Relationship: Wife
Particulars:
Who: Herriott Frater (spinster)
Where: St Marks Church, Islington, London
Present Address: 4 Osman St, Tottenham
26/12/1906(mentions a campaign but cannot make out the text)
British War Medals - Victory MedalPage 3 - ID Papers
Frater Leonard Charles
234322 Pte
Dispersal Unit Crystal Palace 12 Oct 1918
Record Office: Woolwich *yard, upper * st
Address of pay: 37 Durham Rd, Finsbury Park
Theatre of War: France
Born in Year: 1882 (BMD fiche actually shows 1885?)
Medical category: B
Specialist qualification: nillPage 4
Disability doc to faint to readPage 5 Medical History
Leonard Charles Frater
Parish: Islington County: Middlesex
done 3rd July (year is in damaged section)
Age: 33 yrs 7 mths
Occupation: Shop Assistance
Height: 5 feet 3 1/2 inches
Weight: 125 lbs
Chest girth: 33 1/2 inches
expansion: 1 1/2 inches
physical development: good
Gey Eyes
Brown hair
vaccinated as infant
Synovitis left (possibly knee) stiff
cannot straighten leg yet or bend muchEnlisted at: Mill Hill on 3rd August 1916
Joined on Enlistment Roemounts Asc (cannot read regtl number)Page 7
copy of enrollment doc page 1Page 8
copy of enrollment doc page 2Page 9
Shows Posted date but writing is to faintPage 10
Conduct Sheet
Leonard Charles Frater
no infoPage 11
(don't know what the page is for too damaged but can make out part of birth date 7 July)Page 12
Memorandum to Paymaster. (Details are very faint)Page 13
Not to Paymaster 107 Upper Thames Street, ECWill you please inform me of the present address of (damaged area) Frater wife of number 234322 Pte Frater L C Army Service Corps, or the Post Office from which Separation Allowance is being issued.
A letter addressed by me to 4 Osman Road, Tottenham has been returned marked Gone away.
Signed 16 Feb 1917Page 14
no detailsPage 15
Pay comments of dates and leave dates and traced by census dates. Quite faint but can be just made outPage 16
Casualty Form - Active Services
Regtl No: Rx/41 234322 Rank: Private Name: Frater Leonard Charles
Enlisted: 30/8/16 Terms of Service D of W Service reckons from 30/8/16Embarked Southampton 13-10-16
Disembarked Havre 14-10-16
Per SS "Arundel"
To No.2 Base Remount
Depot. *
Posted to No. * Remount
Depot. 15-10-167/ 9/17 W.O. Adm 83 G.R. (Co* * R) 21. 8.17 HA13267
7/ 9/17 W.O. To 1 Con Depot ex 83 GR 28. 8.17 HA 13383
18/ 9/17 W.O. To 3 Red Camp "Fit" ex 1 Con Depot 2. 9.17 HA 13630
HBRW Rejoined from GR *
Page 17
(mainly damaged but can ee)
Transferred to Z army
reserve on Demobilization
date 9-11-1919
*
Home address
37 Durham Road
Finsbury Park
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1891 census
District 7 Hornsey Middlesex
RG 12/1060 Page 16
Schedule 90 1 Brook Road
Alfred F CROSSMAN Head M 32 Railway Labourer Hornsey Middlesex
Harriet CROSSMAN Wife M 28 - Brighton Sussex
Harriet M CROSSMAN Daur 6 Scholar Hornsey Middlesex
Alfred G CROSSMAN Son 3 - Hornsey, Middlesex
Albert CROSSMAN Son 10m - Hornsey, Middlesex
28 Aug 2003
Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater.This is the only John born in Polmont of the same time period. So it is an educated guess
1861 census
Agness Frater Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 476 Registration district: Denny Civil parish: Denny Town: Denny County: Stirlingshire
Address: Flighers Ship Stirling St ED: 3 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 142 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_63
Spouse's name : John
Household Members: Name Age
John Frater 58
Agness Frater 50
Janes Frater 15
Wm Frater 18
This is the only John born in Polmont of the same time period. So it is an educated guess
1861 census
Agness Frater Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 476 Registration district: Denny Civil parish: Denny Town: Denny County: Stirlingshire
Address: Flighers Ship Stirling St ED: 3 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 142 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_63
Spouse's name : John
Household Members: Name Age
John Frater 58
Agness Frater 50
Janes Frater 15
Wm Frater 18
This is the only John born in Polmont of the same time period. So it is an educated guess
1861 census
Agness Frater Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 476 Registration district: Denny Civil parish: Denny Town: Denny County: Stirlingshire
Address: Flighers Ship Stirling St ED: 3 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 142 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_63
Spouse's name : John
Household Members: Name Age
John Frater 58
Agness Frater 50
Janes Frater 15
Wm Frater 18
This is the only John born in Polmont of the same time period. So it is an educated guess
1861 census
Agness Frater Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Campsie, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 476 Registration district: Denny Civil parish: Denny Town: Denny County: Stirlingshire
Address: Flighers Ship Stirling St ED: 3 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 142 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_63
Spouse's name : John
Household Members: Name Age
John Frater 58
Agness Frater 50
Janes Frater 15
Wm Frater 18
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonBirth Register Index details
Frater George B 1876 Sept Islington ? ?Text transcribed from George's army discharge papers:
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Private George FRATER discharge papers show
583599 Labour Corps
Transfer to the reserve on 1st June 1919
living at 140 Elmore Road, IslingtonConduct sheet shows he attested 11/12/1915 Whitehall Street
Army form 103 was extracted 2/3/1920 and sent to officer in charge of records Nottingham
Army Form B103 Casualty Form - Active Service
Regimental number: 8466 Rank: Private Name: Frater George
Enlisted (a): 15/9/1916 Terms of servcie (a): Service reckons from (a) 15/9/1016
Date of promotion to present rank: - Date of appointment to lance rank: - Numerical position on roll of NCOs: -
Extended: - Re-engaged: - Qualification (b): -
Southampton 3 Jan 1917
Havre 4 Jan 1917
5 Jan 1917 YIBD Arrives No 7 TREY Base Dept, Havre 4 Jan 1917
4 Feb 1917 YIBD To 15th Royal Irish Rifles 4 Feb 1917. NR.
22 Feb 1917 No 2 Reg Transferred to t8th (TF) Res Br Lon Rgt 22 Feb 1917
Inf Dic & Posted to 15th Ryl Irish Rifles
A.O. 204 & ACI 1499 of 1916 New No 44403
Auth DA G CR 39686/7
O i/c Capt for Terr Infy Southern section
GHQ 3rd Echelon
27 4/8 (unread) Leave Field 4/19.2.18 Roll
Ditto Sick to 7.11 13 5/18 B(unread)
15ccs adm Arthritis Field 13 5/18 6 A T 14 5/18 E & 1647
32S Hosp adm myalgia Field 13 5/18 HA (unread number)
(unread) adm ? Hosp Boulogne (unread) (unread)
106a Dept Dis to Labour Corps Base Dept Henriville 5.6.18 HA24517Next of kin Wife E. Frater, 60 Orpingly Road, Holloway
o/o Lab Corps
Transfd to 73 Labour Company
with effect from 11 4/18
Benefit of the service +c
24 6/18 L.C Rgre No 583599 G Bramwell Capt Lieut for o i/c Inf Sec No 2
O C Coy Joined Coy Field 11.6.18
(below this is difficult to read but here are bits that I can)
Posted to 26 * *.*.19
Auth DAG CRN 762849876
* To * R (10a)
14 * 19 Demob 4 * 19
(signature and who o i/c was but unreadable)Service and Casualty Form
Rank: Private
Surname: Frater
Christian name: George
Army Form: AFB2512
British:
Year of Birth: 1876Labour Corps 583599
(the word MEDAL is stamped on the card)Service reckons from 11.12.15
Trade: Dealer
MarriedNext of Kin: (wife) Emily Frater 65 Orpingley Road, Holloway
Attested 11.12.15
To Army Res 12.12.15
mob 13. 9.16
3/1 Lon Regt Posted Pte 14. 9.16
Royal I Rifles 15 Transferred Pte 20. 2.17
Lab Corps Transferred Pte 11. 4.18
12 Coy
PoW Coy 265 Posted Pte 3. 1.19
Character
docs to Chelsea(There is a stamp whose headings cannot be read but the hand written comments show)
1.6.19
Nottingham
140 Elmore Street, Islington, London(Down the right hand side is written)
Home 11.12.15 to 2.1.17
France 3.1.17 to 2.5.19 2 yrs 120
Home 3.5.19He was awarded a £5 supplementary gratuity
Next award refers to Rheumatism and that he is awarded 5/6 over 26 wks C from 2.6.19
Number of childredn and allowance granted is 3/2 for three
signed by J H Underhill 2.6.19
The Children are named but difficult to read
George O 19.10.11
Charles * 18.5.13
* 18.7.15Renewal award
Pension awarded for children expiring 3.2.20Medical Report on discharge
1 Unit and Corps: 256th Labour
2 & 3 Regtl No: 593599 Rank: Pte
4 Name: Frater, George
5 Age last B'day: 44
6 Posted for duty on 13.9.1916 at Salisbury Plain
7 (can't read)
8 not an injury
9 N/A
10 nil (disability)
12: place of origin of disability: France
13: no documenting evidence of having been in hospital. States that he was in Hospital for a * in the war of 1917. He *Cheltenham Terrace
(interesting that his discharge papers say that nothing his wrong with him, but later gets pension)
Later in the discharge papers are earlier medical documents that state that illness of Rhumatism & cram was caused by in* is shell holes March 1918
and hospitals given are No 1 CCS & No. 10 Con Camp.
Also othe medical shows diagnosis of Rheumatism
with a present condition of:
Heart & Lungs show no notable physical signs of lision. Left knee somewhat stiff and slight * on movement.Date and location of this medical cannot be read.
Medical History document shows
Born Holloway, Middx
39 at time of record
Trade Clothing Dealer
Height 5ft 3 3/4
weight 126 lbs
Chest: 34 1/2
Range of expansion 2 1/2
Physical development Good
Vaccination marks: 4 when vaccinated: Infancy(says something in slight defacts but cannot read it)
Relisted Central London Recruiting Depot, Whitehall, SW 13 Sep 1916
Joined on enlist: 1st London Regt
then Royal Isish Rifles
then Labour Corp
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