Descendants of John Frater 1756 Polmont

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William FRATER

document from Sheila Saunders shows that William was known as Tom

Notes from KF
A William Frater has been found in:
Post Office London County Suburbs Directory, 1908. [Part 1: Street, Commercial, & Trades Directories]
Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park (N), [Islington] Fonthill Road, Seven Sisters Road to Stroud Green Road
2. Frater, Wm House decorator
Also on page 471 at 2 Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park, London

According to the 1881 census there is only one William FRATER born about 1874 and he is this one
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son

1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London

Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington


Ada LEWIS

Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington

Surname taken from Free BMD marriage pages. Only 1 William & Ada married in Islington in this time frame.


Christian FRATER

Notes from Caroline Frater. - Notes from Edward C Frater


Arthur FRATER

1861 census
Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex
RG 9/196 Page 65
Schedule 389 29 North Avenue
James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland
Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex
James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex
Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex
Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex
Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex
Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex
Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex
William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex
Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex

James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census.
RG10/259 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Folio: 49 Page: 19
Household schedule number: 120
6 Charlotte Street
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor
L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker
Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London
Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London
Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London

1881 Census
Dwelling: 6 Charlotte Terrace Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0231 Folio 79 Page 21 Name Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FRATER M 61 F Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor Eliza D. FRATER U 25 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Arthur FRATER U 21 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Chair & Sofa Wood Carver

1891 census
11 Gainford Street, Islington
RG12/155 Page 19/166
James FRATER head married 71 Printer Compositor Scotland
Arthur FRATER son Single 32 C* Islington, London

1901 census
15 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell London (near brother William? at 11 Busaco St in 1891)
Arthur FRATER Head married 41 undecipherable labourer worker Islington
Charlotte FRATER wife married 33 undecipherable florist worker Holborn


Charlotte WATLING

1901 census
15 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell London (near brother William? at 11 Busaco St in 1891)
Arthur FRATER Head married 41 undecipherable labourer worker Islington
Charlotte FRATER wife married 33 undecipherable florist worker Holborn


Oliver Frederick FRATER

Buried 27.12.1987 at Llandyry Church Trimsaran

Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater


ONE OF TWO

Marriages Dec 1909
DARLING Charles Islington 1b 548
FRATER Elizabeth Eliza D Islington 1b 548
THURLOW George William Islington 1b 548


Elizabeth Eliza Dundas FRATER

BMD Entry
Frater Elizabeth Eliza D B 1882 Dec Islington 1b 439

Marriages Dec 1909
DARLING Charles Islington 1b 548
FRATER Elizabeth Eliza D Islington 1b 548
THURLOW George William Islington 1b 548

Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references in The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in the WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos. 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th.

1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London

1901 census RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125
Islington St. Marks 4 Andover Gardens
Oliver Frater Head married 49 House Painter b: North Islington, London
Ellen Frater wife married 49 b: North Islington, London
Oliver Frater son single 20 Bricklayer's labourer b: North Islington, London
Elizabeth Frater daughter single 18 b: North Islington, London
Robert Frater son single 14 b: North Islington, London
Frederick Frater son single 8 b: North Islington, London
Emily Frater daughter single 6 b: North Islington, London


Edward FRATER

Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater


William BELL

1871 census details from Maria Williams 18.3.2007
114 Church Road, North Shields, Tynemouth
Hannah McMullan Head Widow 66 Lodging House Keeper North Shields, Northumberland
Charles Brown Boarder UnM 38 Seaman France
William Bell Boarder UnM 22 Tailor Scotland
Thomas Bell Boarder UnM 53 Engine Fitter Scotland
Henry Newton Boarder UnM 23 Seaman Hull, Yorkshire
Charles ?ack Boarder UnM 24 Seaman ?
George Jameson Boarder UnM 24 Seaman Newcastle

This is most likely 1881 census details Westoe is also where parents Thomas & Margaret live
1881 Census
15 Hedley St, Westoe, Durham, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5011/120 Page 60
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BELL Head M Male 32 Scotland Tailor
Elizabeth C.L. BELL Wife M Female 32 Chillingham, Northumberland, England
Jno. W. BELL Son Male 6 No Shields, Northumberland, England Scholar
Thomas BELL Son Male 4 No Shields, Northumberland, England
James D. BELL Son Male 2 So Shields, Durham, England


Elizabeth C L

This is most likely 1881 census details Westoe is also where parents Thomas & Margaret live
1881 Census
15 Hedley St, Westoe, Durham, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5011/120 Page 60
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BELL Head M Male 32 Scotland Tailor
Elizabeth C.L. BELL Wife M Female 32 Chillingham, Northumberland, England
Jno. W. BELL Son Male 6 No Shields, Northumberland, England Scholar
Thomas BELL Son Male 4 No Shields, Northumberland, England
James D. BELL Son Male 2 So Shields, Durham, England


John W(illiam) BELL

Don't know what Jno could be there are two names on the index with W as initial both are called Joseph. Could this be him?
North Shields is part of the Tynemouth District. There are some John William's born to match J W Bell.

This is most likely 1881 census details Westoe is also where parents Thomas & Margaret live
1881 Census
15 Hedley St, Westoe, Durham, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5011/120 Page 60
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BELL Head M Male 32 Scotland Tailor
Elizabeth C.L. BELL Wife M Female 32 Chillingham, Northumberland, England
Jno. W. BELL Son Male 6 No Shields, Northumberland, England Scholar
Thomas BELL Son Male 4 No Shields, Northumberland, England
James D. BELL Son Male 2 So Shields, Durham, England


Thomas BELL

This is most likely 1881 census details Westoe is also where parents Thomas & Margaret live
1881 Census
15 Hedley St, Westoe, Durham, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5011/120 Page 60
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BELL Head M Male 32 Scotland Tailor
Elizabeth C.L. BELL Wife M Female 32 Chillingham, Northumberland, England
Jno. W. BELL Son Male 6 No Shields, Northumberland, England Scholar
Thomas BELL Son Male 4 No Shields, Northumberland, England
James D. BELL Son Male 2 So Shields, Durham, England


James D BELL

This is most likely 1881 census details Westoe is also where parents Thomas & Margaret live
1881 Census
15 Hedley St, Westoe, Durham, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5011/120 Page 60
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William BELL Head M Male 32 Scotland Tailor
Elizabeth C.L. BELL Wife M Female 32 Chillingham, Northumberland, England
Jno. W. BELL Son Male 6 No Shields, Northumberland, England Scholar
Thomas BELL Son Male 4 No Shields, Northumberland, England
James D. BELL Son Male 2 So Shields, Durham, England


Peter HAWKINS

from Father-in-law's will
1. Janet Frater or Hawkins my daughter, relict of Peter Hawkins, Melbourne, Australia.


Janet FRATER

details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document

1841 Scottish census from ancestry.com
Civil parish: Cumbernauld County: Dunbartonshire Address: Southside Of Main Street Parish Number: 495
Household Members: Name Age
Moris Frater 30
Jean Frater 30
Isabella Frater 12
Helen Frater 10
Janet Frater 8
John Frater 4
Joseph Frater 2
Moris Frater 1
John Lawrie 20
Jean Aulch 15