Buried 27.12.1987 at Llandyry Church Trimsaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
Possible Parents
Marriages Dec 1919
Haver Eliza White Bethnal G. 1c336
White James H Haver Bethnal G, 1c336Births Sep 1922
White Dorothy G Haver Ashby Z. 7a187
199. David Charles FRATER
married first wife at age of 26 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 parish
of Pembrey
married Joyce at age of 33 on 11/7/1950 at Registry Office, LlanelliHe was in the army during the war and was part of the forces that fought in St Malo in France during WWII. He was also one of the soldiers who were charged with escorting "aliens" on the Arandora Star. This ship was sunk on July 2nd 1940. It took place north- west of Malin Head when the one-time flag ship of the Blue Star Line, the Arandora Star, was torpedoed and sank, with the loss of 682 lives out of a total of 1,571 on board.
The ship was torpedoed by submarine U47 captained by Kapitaanleutnan Gunther Prien. This disaster affected my father far more than he was willing to say. I remember him talking about it only the once when he spoke of having to go around cutting the floating the buoys of dead soldiers and others so that the bodies would sink to a grave rather than be floating food for the fish. He had a dislike of the sea ever since. He spoke of the sadness of what they had to do in the rounding up of many people with links to Italy and Germany for no other reason than that. They were links. But during that time, in war, they had no way of knowing who may be sympathisers with the enemy and who were not. The regret was more because he knew Italain and and Italian descent people, and whilst he couldn't believe that they were anything but loyal to the country they lived in, he undestood the orders that were given. He also spoke of having to have "words" with some of the way they spoke to the "aliens." He was still a Sergeant at that time (one of many - as "bing one of the boys" he also kept being demoted!!) and so could comment to the soldiers of lower rank.
I believe that survivors were brought ashore in Scotland (possibly Greenock on the Clyde). Photos were taken which were then used in the press. My father used to boast that this was the one and only time he was on the front page of a national newspaper. My mother told me that the first the family knew about where my father was, was when they saw his picture in the newspaper. This paper was lost over the years and I have yet to locate a copy of it.Buried at Llandyry Church Trimsaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
Born Biggs
second wife of David Charles Frater and sister of first wife
Dulcie. Technically step mother of Clive but brought him up from a baby.
Technically half brother of Kerry
married at age of 28 on 11/7/1950 to David Charles at Registry Office,
LlanelliBuried at Llandyry Church Trimsaran
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
Born Biggs
First Wife of David Charles Frater and mother of Clive.
married at age of 23 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 (parish of Pembrey)
200. Emily Maud FRATER
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
311. Leonard PROCTOR
Murdered at Christmas time outside pub by two youths
203. Richard FRATER
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
205. Edward FRATER
Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater
207. Violet A REED
email from Karen Warren (granddaughter of Emily Rebecca Frater)
208. Doris Emily REED
From Karren Warren email 6/10/2003
Living in AustraliaGR message 5.4.2008
my mum Doris Emily was about 3rd eldest, she married Alexander John Porter and had 6 kids, they later divorced and she remarried Kenneth Gilman and they went to Australia, they had 1girl Kathy
209. Edith F REED
From Karren Warren email 6/10/2003
(Norfolk)
211. Evelyn REED
email from Karen Warren (daughter)
died from a stroke
From Karren Warren email 6/10/2003
died from a stroke
213. Derrick Leslie REED
email from Karen Warren (granddaughter of Emily Rebecca Frater)
Wickford, Essex~ Rumour has it there are up to six more of his offspring but we have no proof or details as yet.
Known as Del
- other researchers Maureen REED
From Karren Warren email 6/10/2003
full name provided by Emma Reed - 24.1.2004
email from Karen Warren (granddaughter of Emily Rebecca Frater)
died at birth