0 HEAD 1 SOUR PAF 2 NAME Personal Ancestral File 2 VERS 5.2.18.0 2 CORP The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 3 ADDR 50 East North Temple Street 4 CONT Salt Lake City, UT 84150 4 CONT USA 1 DEST PAF 1 DATE 21 Apr 2008 2 TIME 22:58:44 1 FILE fraterjohn.ged 1 GEDC 2 VERS 5.5 2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED 1 CHAR UTF-8 1 LANG English 1 SUBM @SUB1@ 0 @SUB1@ SUBM 1 NAME Kerry Frater 1 ADDR 31 Church Street 2 CONT Oldbury 2 CONT West Midlands 2 CONT B69 3AG 2 CTRY UK 1 EMAIL kerry@myforefathers.co.uk 0 @I3@ INDI 1 NAME Oliver /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Oliver 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1 Dec 1851 2 PLAC St Pancras, Middlesex, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22 3 NOTE details updated from 1901 census. This states born North Islington which does not match othe 4 CONC r docs 4 CONT 4 CONT No St Pancras entry for 1851 but this is the closest 4 CONT BMD Fiche update 17.4.2004 4 CONT Frater Oliver B 1851 Dec St Giles I 54 4 CONT Birth date from IGI entry of familysearch.org 4 CONT 4 CONT See "residence" for address of birth 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 CHR 2 DATE 7 Mar 1852 2 PLAC Old Church St. Pancras, London 1 _UID 844A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15E543 1 FAMS @F4@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 RESI 2 DATE 1 Dec 1851 2 PLAC 21 Henriette Street, Bloomsbury 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 NOTE document from Sheila Saunders. 4 CONT Henriette Street now Handel Street 3 DATA 4 DATE 6 Jun 2007 1 OCCU French Polisher 2 DATE 21 Mar 1868 2 PLAC Bethnal Green 2 SOUR @S45@ 3 NOTE Marriage certificate of Oliver to Ellen 3 DATA 4 DATE 4 May 2004 1 RESI 2 DATE 21 Mar 1869 2 PLAC 10 South Street, Bethnal Green, London 2 SOUR @S45@ 3 PAGE No 202 21.3.1869 Bethnal Green 3 DATA 4 DATE 4 May 2004 1 RESI 2 DATE 12.11.1889 and 23.12.1889 2 PLAC 9 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S44@ 3 PAGE FC270172 3 NOTE Birth certificate of son Edward 3 DATA 4 DATE 18 Dec 2002 1 RESI 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC 4 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 OCCU House Painter 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC Islington, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 NOTE Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references i 2 CONC n The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in th 2 CONC e WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos 2 CONC . 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th. 2 CONT 2 CONT Oliver is listed in the BlackSheep index. This is a reference 2 CONT Palmer's Index to The Times 1878 Police --- Frater, Oliver, for Attempted Suicide 15 May 187 2 CONC 8 (Page 14 col a) 2 CONT At the MANSION-HOUSE, yesterday, OLIVER FRATER, a painter, residing at Holloway, was charge 2 CONC d with attempting to commit suicide. Mr Edward Byron Shephard, jun., of 65 Great Tower-street 2 CONC , said that on Monday evening, about 6 o'clock, he saw the prisoner jump over the parapet o 2 CONC f London-bridge on to the outer ledge. Two men came forward and prevented him going any furth 2 CONC er. Witness thought he had been drinking, but that he was not drunk and gave him in charge. T 2 CONC he prisoner said he wished he had done it and walked quietly away with the constable. Replyin 2 CONC g to the Lord Mayor, the prisoner said he was intoxicated at the time and had been drinking a 2 CONC ll the day. He was now very sorry for what he had done. Police-constable Betts deposed that t 2 CONC he prisoner was given into his custody by the previous witness, and said on the way to the po 2 CONC lice-station that he should have "done it" if he had not been prevented, and that the first c 2 CONC hance he had he should avail himself of it, he not being able to provide for his wife and fam 2 CONC ily. He was drunk. His wife was with him at the time. The wife, addressing the Lord Mayor, sa 2 CONC id she had three children and expected to be confined every hour. The prisoner was a painter 2 CONC , and was a very good husband, but he had been drinking since the previous Sunday. They had h 2 CONC ad no quarrel. He had been at work, but got drinking. Eventually, at the wife's solicitation 2 CONC , the Lord Mayor discharged the prisoner. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1871 census 2 CONT 27 Blundell Street (one of 4 families) 2 CONT RG10/267 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Folio: 45 Page: 16 2 CONT Household schedule number: 78 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT Oliver Frater 19 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Islington St Andrew London Painter 2 CONT Ellen Frater 19 Shamford Hill, Yorkshire, England Wife Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT Ellen Frater 1 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT born 1851 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 2 CONT Islington St. Marks 4 Andover Gardens 2 CONT Oliver Frater Head married 49 House Painter b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen Frater wife married 49 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Oliver Frater son single 20 Bricklayer's labourer b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth Frater daughter single 18 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Robert Frater son single 14 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Frederick Frater son single 8 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Emily Frater daughter single 6 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT Birth certificate of Edward Frater son is shown as son of Oliver Frater & Ellen Frater, forme 2 CONC rly BUTLER, Father's occupation: House Painter, signature was X the mark of Ellen Frater Moth 2 CONC er, 9 Andover Gardens, Islington. Signed 23 December 1889, Registrar: C R Butcher 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:35:05 0 @I4@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID C549889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152544 1 FAMS @F6@ 1 FAMC @F7@ 0 @I5@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID C849889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152874 1 FAMC @F6@ 0 @I6@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID CA49889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152A94 1 FAMC @F6@ 0 @I7@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID CB49889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152BA4 1 FAMS @F6@ 0 @I8@ INDI 1 NAME David Charles /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN David Charles 2 _AKA Dai 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 9 Jul 1917 2 PLAC Carms 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1 Aug 1990 2 PLAC Prince Philip Hospital, Llanelli 2 CAUS heart attack 1 BURI 2 PLAC Llandyrry Church, Trimsaran 1 _UID CC49889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152CB4 1 FAMS @F7@ 1 FAMS @F9@ 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 RESI 2 DATE 1940-death 2 PLAC 146 Garden Suburbs, Trimsaran, Nr Kidwelly S. Wales 2 SOUR @S3@ 3 NOTE moved there with wife Joyce to look after mother law in 1950's. Lived ther till he died 3 OBJE 4 FORM jpg 4 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\garden suburbs trimsaran.jpg 4 TITL 4 NOTE 4 _SCBK N 4 _PRIM N 4 _TYPE PHOTO 4 _SSHOW Y 1 NOTE married first wife at age of 26 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 parish 2 CONT of Pembrey 2 CONT married Joyce at age of 33 on 11/7/1950 at Registry Office, Llanelli 2 CONT 2 CONT He was in the army during the war and was part of the forces that fought in St Malo in Franc 2 CONC e during WWII. He was also one of the soldiers who were charged with escorting "aliens" on th 2 CONC e Arandora Star. This ship was sunk on July 2nd 1940. It took place north- west of Malin Hea 2 CONC d when the one-time flag ship of the Blue Star Line, the Arandora Star, was torpedoed and san 2 CONC k, with the loss of 682 lives out of a total of 1,571 on board. 2 CONT The ship was torpedoed by submarine U47 captained by Kapitaanleutnan Gunther Prien. This disa 2 CONC ster affected my father far more than he was willing to say. I remember him talking about i 2 CONC t only the once when he spoke of having to go around cutting the floating the buoys of dead s 2 CONC oldiers and others so that the bodies would sink to a grave rather than be floating food fo 2 CONC r the fish. He had a dislike of the sea ever since. He spoke of the sadness of what they ha 2 CONC d to do in the rounding up of many people with links to Italy and Germany for no other reaso 2 CONC n than that. They were links. But during that time, in war, they had no way of knowing who ma 2 CONC y be sympathisers with the enemy and who were not. The regret was more because he knew Italai 2 CONC n and and Italian descent people, and whilst he couldn't believe that they were anything bu 2 CONC t loyal to the country they lived in, he undestood the orders that were given. He also spok 2 CONC e of having to have "words" with some of the way they spoke to the "aliens." He was still a S 2 CONC ergeant at that time (one of many - as "bing one of the boys" he also kept being demoted!!) a 2 CONC nd so could comment to the soldiers of lower rank. 2 CONT I believe that survivors were brought ashore in Scotland (possibly Greenock on the Clyde). Ph 2 CONC otos were taken which were then used in the press. My father used to boast that this was th 2 CONC e one and only time he was on the front page of a national newspaper. My mother told me tha 2 CONC t the first the family knew about where my father was, was when they saw his picture in the n 2 CONC ewspaper. This paper was lost over the years and I have yet to locate a copy of it. 2 CONT 2 CONT Buried at Llandyry Church Trimsaran 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 9 Sep 2006 3 TIME 13:11:45 1 ADDR 2 ADR1 146 Garden Suburbs 3 CONT Trimsaran 3 CONT DYFED 3 CONT Wales, United Kingdom 1 OBJE 2 FORM psd 2 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\david charles frater.psd 2 TITL garden of 146 Garden Suburbs, Trimsaran 2 NOTE 1979 dressed for wedding of son Clive to Gwenda Mair. In garden of council house family had since built circa 1930 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 0 @I9@ INDI 1 NAME Joyce /Biggs/ 2 SURN Biggs 2 GIVN Joyce 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 17 Sep 1922 2 PLAC Carms 1 DEAT 2 DATE 5 Jan 1993 2 PLAC Trimsaran, United Kingdom 2 CAUS Brain Haemmorige 1 BURI 2 DATE 1993 2 PLAC Llandyrry Church, Trimsaran 1 _UID CF49889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE152FE4 1 FAMS @F7@ 1 FAMC @F11@ 1 RESI 2 DATE 1930 2 PLAC 146 Garden Suburbs, Trimsaran, Nr Kidwelly S. Wales 2 SOUR @S3@ 3 NOTE from 1930 circa death 3 OBJE 4 FORM jpg 4 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\garden suburbs trimsaran.jpg 4 TITL 4 NOTE 4 _SCBK N 4 _PRIM N 4 _TYPE PHOTO 4 _SSHOW Y 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Born Biggs 2 CONT second wife of David Charles Frater and sister of first wife 2 CONT Dulcie. Technically step mother of Clive but brought him up from a baby. 2 CONT Technically half brother of Kerry 2 CONT married at age of 28 on 11/7/1950 to David Charles at Registry Office, 2 CONT Llanelli 2 CONT 2 CONT Buried at Llandyry Church Trimsaran 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 SOUR @S3@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:32:50 1 ADDR 2 ADR1 146 Garden Suburbs 3 CONT Trimsaran 3 CONT DYFED 3 CONT Wales, United Kingdom 0 @I10@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID D149889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE153104 1 FAMS @F12@ 1 FAMC @F9@ 2 _PRIMARY Y 1 FAMC @F7@ 2 PEDI adopted 0 @I11@ INDI 1 NAME Dulcie May (Maud?) /Biggs/ 2 SURN Biggs 2 GIVN Dulcie May (Maud?) 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 30 Jun 1920 1 DEAT 2 DATE 14 Apr 1945 1 BURI 2 DATE 18 Apr 1945 2 PLAC Llandyry Church, Dyfed 1 _UID D349889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE153324 1 FAMS @F9@ 1 FAMC @F11@ 1 RESI 2 DATE 1930 2 PLAC 146 Garden Suburbs, Trimsaran, Nr Kidwelly S. Wales 2 SOUR @S3@ 3 NOTE from circa 1930 till death 3 OBJE 4 FORM jpg 4 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\garden suburbs trimsaran.jpg 4 TITL 4 NOTE 4 _SCBK N 4 _PRIM N 4 _TYPE PHOTO 4 _SSHOW Y 1 NOTE Born Biggs 2 CONT First Wife of David Charles Frater and mother of Clive. 2 CONT married at age of 23 at Llandyry Church on 11/9/1943 (parish of Pembrey) 1 CHAN 2 DATE 7 Jul 2002 3 TIME 01:00:00 1 ADDR 2 ADR1 3 CONT Trimsaran 3 CONT DYFED 3 CONT SA 3 CONT Wales, United Kingdom 0 @I12@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID D449889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE153434 1 FAMC @F12@ 0 @I13@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID D649889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE153654 1 FAMS @F12@ 1 FAMC @F13@ 0 @I14@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID D849889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE153874 1 FAMC @F12@ 0 @I97@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 614A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C213 1 FAMS @F75@ 1 FAMC @F10@ 0 @I98@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 634A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C433 1 FAMS @F75@ 0 @I99@ INDI 1 NAME Edward /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Edward 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 12 Nov 1889 2 PLAC 9 Andorer Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S44@ 3 PAGE FC270172 3 NOTE Birth certificate for Edward Frater born in London. No other Edward is registered in Englan 4 CONC d & Wales within a 5 year period. Only one is shown born in Scotland who is then shown as die 4 CONC d at the age of 1. 4 CONT 4 CONT BMD Fiche 4 CONT Frater Edward B 1889 Dec Islington 1b 253 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Dec 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE 28 Dec 1957 2 PLAC Trimsaran Carms 1 BURI 2 PLAC Llandyry Church,Dyfed,S.Wales 1 _UID 644A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C543 1 FAMS @F10@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 OCCU 1 RESI 2 DATE 12.11.1889 AND 23.12.1889 2 PLAC 9 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S44@ 3 PAGE FC270172 3 NOTE Birth certificate of Edward Frater 3 DATA 4 DATE 18 Dec 2002 1 MARL 2 DATE 28 Nov 1914 2 PLAC The Register Office carmathen, carmarthenshire, Wales 1 NOTE died age 68 2 CONT The story of Edward Frater is that he is the son of Oliver Frater. The story passed to KF fro 2 CONC m his father DCF is that Edward was born in London of a Scottish Family. The family was spli 2 CONC t up when he was young and EF went "into care". The story from Edward Frater (the son of thi 2 CONC s Edward Frater) is that Edward was born in Scotland, came to London with his family when you 2 CONC ng. The parents died and Edward went into care.. 2 CONT 2 CONT KF has been searching the England & Wales indexes along with the Scottish indexes for Edwar 2 CONC d Frater. The Scottish index was search +/- 10 years. Only one Edward was found born and ha 2 CONC s a correspondaning death certificate in the following year. 2 CONT 2 CONT The English/Welsh indexes were searched +/- 2 years. One Edward was found in 1889. The estima 2 CONC ted year of birth. He is born to Oliver Frater which matches. No record can be found of the f 2 CONC amily in the 1891 census and Edward doesn't show on the 1901 census with Oliver & Ellen. Wa 2 CONC s the family split up? Oliver was known to be poor having attempted to commit suicide in 187 2 CONC 8 because he couldn't keep his family (nee Oliver's notes). There is now good certainty tha 2 CONC t Edward (father of David Charles) is the same Edward born from Oliver in Islington in 1889. 2 CONT 2 CONT Search required to find out where he grew up? 2 CONT 2 CONT Birth certificate of Edward Frater is shown as son of Oliver Frater & Ellen Frater, formerl 2 CONC y BUTLER, Father's occupation: House Painter, signature was X the mark of Ellen Frater Mother 2 CONC , 9 Andover Gardens, Islington. Signed 23 December 1889, Registrar: C R Butcher 2 CONT 2 CONT Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references i 2 CONC n The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in th 2 CONC e WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos 2 CONC . 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th. 2 CONT 2 CONT Births Register Index 2 CONT Frater Edward B 1889 Dec Islington 1b 253 2 CONT 2 CONT Buried at Llandyry Church Trimaran 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 1 CHAN 2 DATE 8 Jun 2007 3 TIME 08:50:04 1 OBJE 2 FORM jpg 2 FILE C:\genealogy\photos\jpgs\documents\03.marr. cert. edward frater elizabeth lewis 1914 copy.jpg 2 TITL Marriage certificate of Edward Frater & Elizabeth Lewis 2 NOTE 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 2 _ROTATE 90 0 @I100@ INDI 1 NAME Arthur Ernest /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Arthur Ernest 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 11 Dec 1935 2 PLAC Carms 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF 2002 1 _UID 654A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C653 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:34:45 0 @I101@ INDI 1 NAME Richard /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Richard 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 15 Feb 1926 2 PLAC Carms 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF 2002 1 _UID 664A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C763 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:38:20 0 @I102@ INDI 1 NAME Ethel /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Ethel 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1927 2 PLAC Carmarthen District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE 11a 723 3 DATA 4 DATE 2 Nov 2006 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF 2002 1 _UID 674A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C873 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 2 Nov 2006 3 TIME 19:06:57 0 @I103@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 684A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15C983 1 FAMC @F75@ 0 @I104@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 694A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15CA93 1 FAMC @F75@ 0 @I105@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 6A4A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15CBA3 1 FAMS @F76@ 1 FAMC @F75@ 0 @I106@ INDI 1 NAME Leonard /Proctor/ 2 SURN Proctor 2 GIVN Leonard 1 SEX M 1 DEAT 2 DATE ABT 2000 2 PLAC Trimsaran 1 _UID 6C4A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15CDC3 1 FAMC @F75@ 1 NOTE Murdered at Christmas time outside pub by two youths 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Nov 2001 3 TIME 00:00:00 0 @I107@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 6D4A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15CED3 1 FAMS @F76@ 0 @I108@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 6E4A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15CFE3 1 FAMC @F76@ 0 @I115@ INDI 1 NAME Elizabeth /Lewis/ 2 SURN Lewis 2 GIVN Elizabeth 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1894 2 PLAC Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/5110 folio 28 Pg 2 3 DATA 4 DATE 30 Aug 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE 10 May 1963 2 PLAC 51 Garden Suburbs, Trimsaran, S. Wales 1 BURI 2 PLAC Llandyry,Dyfed,S. Wales 1 _UID 764A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15D763 1 FAMS @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE 1901 census re: RG13/5110 Folio 28 Pg 2 2 CONT Schedule 6 - Rhydlydan - 2 rooms 2 CONT David Lewis Head, married 28 Coal Hewer Welsh speaker 2 CONT Phoebe Lewis wife, married 31 Welsh speaker 2 CONT Elizabeth Lewis daughter, single 7 Welsh speaker 2 CONT Margaret Lewis daughter, single 2 Welsh speaker 2 CONT 2 CONT Buried at Llandyry Chuch Trimsaran - resided at 51 Garden Suburbs Trimsaran 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:41:10 1 OBJE 2 FORM jpg 2 FILE C:\genealogy\photos\jpgs\documents\03.marr. cert. edward frater elizabeth lewis 1914 copy.jpg 2 TITL Marriage Certificate of Edward Frater & Elizabeth Lewis 2 NOTE 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 2 _ROTATE 90 0 @I116@ INDI 1 NAME Oliver Frederick /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Oliver Frederick 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 2 Oct 1915 2 PLAC Bancosffelen, nr Crwbin, Carmarthen 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater Oliver Frederick B 1915 Dec Carmarthen 11a 2257 Lewis 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 DEAT 2 DATE 22 Dec 1987 2 PLAC Glangwili Hospital, Carmarthen 1 BURI 2 DATE 27 Dec 1987 2 PLAC Llandyry Church, Pinged 1 _UID 774A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15D873 1 FAMS @F80@ 1 FAMS @F1655@ 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Buried 27.12.1987 at Llandyry Church Trimsaran 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:38:04 0 @I117@ INDI 1 NAME Emily Maud /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Emily Maud 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1919 2 PLAC Llanelly District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD 3 NOTE Llanelly Vol 11a 2499 3 DATA 4 DATE 3 Feb 2006 1 DEAT 2 DATE BEF 2002 1 _UID 784A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15D983 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:36:21 0 @I118@ INDI 1 NAME Leonard /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Leonard 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr March 1923 2 PLAC Carmarthen District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE 11a 2359 3 DATA 4 DATE 3 Feb 2006 1 DEAT 2 DATE 29 Nov 1943 2 PLAC Italy 2 CAUS Killed in 2nd World War 1 BURI 2 PLAC Sangro River War Cemetry, Italy 2 SOUR @S8@ 1 _UID 794A889289ACD511B20E0080C8E7DE15DA93 1 FAMC @F10@ 1 OCCU 1 NOTE Fusilier 14200801 6th Bn., Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 2 CONT 2 CONT died Monday, 29th November 1943 Age 20 during Second World War in Italian offensive 2 CONT 2 CONT Cemetery: SANGRO RIVER WAR CEMETERY, Italy 2 CONT Grave Reference: VIII. E. 12. 2 CONT Location: The Sangro River War Cemetery lies in the Contrada Sentinelle in the Commune of Tor 2 CONC ino di Sangro, Province of Chieti. Take the autostrada A14 exit at Val di Sangro. At about 2. 2 CONC 5 kilometres from the exit turn right onto the SS16, Pescara to Vasto road, for nearly 2 kilo 2 CONC metres. There is then a sharp right turn up to cemetery. Within the cemetery will be found th 2 CONC e Sangro River Cremation Memorial. This is one of three memorials erected in Italy to officer 2 CONC s and men of the Indian Army who were cremated - the other two cremation memorials are in For 2 CONC li Indian Army War Cemetery and Rimini Gurkha War Cemetery. Historical Information: The sit 2 CONC e of Sangro River War Cemetery was selected by the 5th Corps. Into it were concentrated the g 2 CONC raves of men who lost their lives in the fierce fighting on the Adriatic sector of the fron 2 CONC t in November-December 1943, and during the subsequent static period there. The 8th Indian Di 2 CONC vision was on this sector during these months; the 4th Indian Division arrived in January 194 2 CONC 4, and the 10th Indian Division in April 1944. There are therefore many muslim burials in th 2 CONC e cemetery, in plots VI, VII, XIII and XVIII; and the cemetery contains one of the three crem 2 CONC ation memorials in Italy (the others being in Forli Indian Army War Cemetery and in Rimini Gu 2 CONC rkha War Cemetery). The New Zealand Division also suffered heavily in the fighting for and be 2 CONC yond the Sangro River, and many of their graves are here. The Canadians have their own cemete 2 CONC ry not far off, at Moro River. Sangro River War Cemetery contains, besides the graves of thos 2 CONC e who died in battle or of wounds, those of quite a number of British prisoners of war who es 2 CONC caped and died either of exposure or otherwise while trying to reach the British lines. Ther 2 CONC e are now 2,500, 1939-45 war casualties commemorated in this site. Of these, nearly 100 are u 2 CONC nidentified. 2 CONT 2 CONT Details also taken from www.myforefathers.co.uk - site by Kerry Frater 1 SOUR @S8@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 15 Mar 2006 3 TIME 13:37:43 1 OBJE 2 FORM jpg 2 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\leonard frater.jpg 2 TITL As a teenager? 2 NOTE Leonard was youngest of nine. All were involved in the second world war. Leonard was the only one killed which devasted his mother. 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 0 @I606@ INDI 1 NAME Florence Martha /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Florence Martha 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr June 1872 2 PLAC Westminster District, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater Florence Martha B 1872 June Westminster 1a 443 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID ED878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE150164 1 FAMC @F238@ 1 NOTE 1881 census entry 2 CONT Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Sour 2 CONC ce: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birt 2 CONC hplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:27:44 0 @I1515@ INDI 1 NAME Adeleide Junett (Janett) /Freeth/ 2 SURN Freeth 2 GIVN Adeleide Junett (Janett) 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1848 2 PLAC St Pancras, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 NOTE Births Dec 1848 4 CONT Freeth Adelaide Ann* St Pancras 1 255 3 DATA 4 DATE 7 Oct 2007 1 _UID E8878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE15FC14 1 FAMS @F238@ 1 NOTE 1871 census 2 CONT RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91 2 CONT Household schedule number:698 2 CONT Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862] 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census entry 2 CONT Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Sour 2 CONC ce: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birt 2 CONC hplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:27:22 0 @I1551@ INDI 1 NAME Edward /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Edward 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 17 Jan 1848 2 PLAC Islington District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE updated record 4 CONT Frater Edward B 1848 March Islington XXIV|UR 278 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 CHR 2 DATE 7 Mar 1852 2 PLAC Old Church St. Pancras, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE familysearch.org 3 NOTE IGI from Church records 3 DATA 4 DATE 2 May 2004 1 _UID 91F42AC063FCD51197CB0080C8E7DE153836 1 FAMS @F568@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 OCCU French Polisher 2 DATE 1881 census 2 PLAC London 1 NOTE 1851 census 2 CONT HO 107/1507 Pg 49 2 CONT St George Bloomsbury Finsbury 2 CONT Schedule 251 2 CONT James Frater Head Mar 31 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah A Frater Wife Mar 23 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex 2 CONT James J Frater Son - 4 - St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward Frater Son - 3 - Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick Frater Son - 1 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT presuming this is entry from 1881 census 2 CONT 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT b 1848 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:30:43 0 @I1552@ INDI 1 NAME Morris /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Morris 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1809 2 PLAC Stirlings, Polmont, Dumbarts 1 _UID 8278F7DEDA55D61197CB0080C8E7DE15692F 1 FAMS @F569@ 1 FAMC @F570@ 1 NOTE details from Leicester John Frater family Tree Document 2 CONT servant 2 CONT 2 CONT Is this Morris? 2 CONT The Times 2 CONT From The London Gazette April 22 1842 pg 4 Issue 17965 col D 2 CONT Scotch Sequestrations 2 CONT Morris FRATER , carrier, carrier, April 28, May 21, at 1o'clock, at the house of Daniel McGre 2 CONC gor, Cumbernauld. 2 CONT 2 CONT This is of interest because a son of this Morris (also called Morris) married an Elizabeth Mc 2 CONC Gregor daughter of Daniel McGregor. Both children of Cumbernauld. 2 CONT 2 CONT Will of Morris provided by Sylvia Bradley 31.8.2004 2 CONT SC65/34/32/26 2 CONT Morris Frater Value of Estate £161, 2s, 9d 2 CONT 2 CONT Morris Frater Senior, Carrier, Main Street, Parish of Cumbernauld, who died 3rd of May 1888 a 2 CONC t Main Street, aforesaid, testate, granted at Dumbarton, to Morris Frater, Junior, Carter, Ma 2 CONC in Street, aforesaid Executor nominated in Will or Deed dated 18th January 1888 and recorde 2 CONC d in Court Books of Commissariat of Dumbarton. 2 CONT 2 CONT Morris Frater left the following to his children; 2 CONT 2 CONT 1. Joseph Frater, Carter, Main Street, Cumbernauld, my son the sum of Sixty Pounds. 2 CONT And secondly to each of; 2 CONT 2. Janet Frater or Hawkins my daughter, relict of Peter Hawkins, Melbourne, Australia. 2 CONT 3. Isabella Frater or Downie, also my daughter relict of Thomas Downie, New York, America. 2 CONT 4. Helen Frater or Cairns, also my daughter, wife of George Cairns, Joiner, Montreal, Canada. 2 CONT 5. Morris Frater, Joiner, Main Street, Tollcross, near Glasgow also my son. 2 CONT The sum of Thirty Pounds each. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1841 Scottish census from ancestry.com 2 CONT Civil parish: Cumbernauld County: Dunbartonshire Address: Southside Of Main Street Paris 2 CONC h Number: 495 2 CONT Household Members: Name Age 2 CONT Moris Frater 30 2 CONT Jean Frater 30 2 CONT Isabella Frater 12 2 CONT Helen Frater 10 2 CONT Janet Frater 8 2 CONT John Frater 4 2 CONT Joseph Frater 2 2 CONT Moris Frater 1 2 CONT John Lawrie 20 2 CONT Jean Aulch 15 2 CONT 2 CONT 1851 scottish cesnsus 2 CONT addresss: Main 2 CONT Street, Cumbernauld. 2 CONT Marris Frater, age 43, Head, born Polmont, Stirlingshire, Occupation: Carrier. 2 CONT Helen D Frater, age 20, daughter, born St Ninans, Stirlingshire, Occupation: House Reeper (si 2 CONC c). 2 CONT John D Frater, age 14, son, born Cumbernauld, Scholar. 2 CONT Joseph D Frater, age 12, son, born Cumbernauld, Scholar. 2 CONT Morris D Frater, age 10, son, born Cumbernauld, Scholar. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census of Cumbernauld: 2 CONT address: Main Street South Side Chalmers Land. 2 CONT Morris Frater, age 52, Head, born Volmont, Shirlingsh, Occupation: Carrier. 2 CONT Joseph Frater, age 21, Son, born Cumbernauld. Occupation: Carrier. 2 CONT Isabella Duncan, age 38, Servant, born Cumbernauld. Occupation: Domestic Servant. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census (details in email from Sandra Reid 1.2.2008) 2 CONT Dwelling: Main Street 2 CONT Census Place: Cumbernauld, Dumbarton, Scotland 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 0203548 GRO Ref Volume 495 Enum Dist 8 Page 13 2 CONT Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Morris FRATER W 70 M Redding, Stirling, Scotland 2 CONT Rel: Head 2 CONT Occ: Carrier 2 CONT Morris FRATER U 19 M Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland 2 CONT Rel: Grandson 2 CONT Occ: General Servant (Domestic) 2 CONT Mary MARSHALL W 46 F Gargell, Lanark, Scotland 2 CONT Rel: Servant 2 CONT Occ: Housekeeper 1 CHAN 2 DATE 31 Mar 2008 3 TIME 07:51:14 0 @I1554@ INDI 1 NAME Arthur /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Arthur 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr March 1860 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, England 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE updated record 4 CONT Frater Arthur B 1860 March Clerkenwell 1b 559 4 CONT The IGI has a birth of 5 June 1867 to James and Sarah Ann but this does not appear in the fic 4 CONC he. 3 DATA 4 DATE 16 Apr 2004 1 CHR 2 DATE 23 Jun 1867 2 PLAC Old Church, St Pancras, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 NOTE The IGI has the christeneing for "Alfred" but no Alfred was registered for birth. Presumptio 4 CONC n that Alfred is Arthur. 3 DATA 4 DATE 4 Mar 2004 1 _UID E6878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE15FAF4 1 FAMS @F1585@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 OCCU Chair & Sofa Wood carver 2 DATE 1881 census 2 PLAC London 1 NOTE 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census. 2 CONT RG10/259 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Folio: 49 Page: 19 2 CONT Household schedule number: 120 2 CONT 6 Charlotte Street 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor 2 CONT L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker 2 CONT Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 6 Charlotte Terrace Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: F 2 CONC HL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0231 Folio 79 Page 21 Name Marr Age Sex Birth 2 CONC place James FRATER M 61 F Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor Eliza D. FRATER U 2 2 CONC 5 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Arthur FRATER U 21 M Islington 2 CONC , Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Chair & Sofa Wood Carver 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT 11 Gainford Street, Islington 2 CONT RG12/155 Page 19/166 2 CONT James FRATER head married 71 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Arthur FRATER son Single 32 C* Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census 2 CONT 15 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell London (near brother William? at 11 Busaco St in 1891) 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Head married 41 undecipherable labourer worker Islington 2 CONT Charlotte FRATER wife married 33 undecipherable florist worker Holborn 1 CHAN 2 DATE 13 Jun 2007 3 TIME 22:48:02 0 @I1580@ INDI 1 NAME Mary Harriet /Spong/ 2 SURN Spong 2 GIVN Mary Harriet 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1845 2 PLAC Berkshire 1 _UID 01888A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE1516B3 1 FAMS @F568@ 1 NOTE presuming this is entry from 1881 census 2 CONT 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:30:49 0 @I1581@ INDI 1 NAME Frederick Charles /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Frederick Charles 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Sept 1879 2 PLAC St Pancras, Middlesex, London 1 _UID 0A888A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE151F43 1 FAMC @F568@ 1 NOTE 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Births Register Details 2 CONT Frater Frederick Charles B 1879 Sept Pancras 1b 121 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:31:38 0 @I1582@ INDI 1 NAME Oliver /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Oliver 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr March 1881 2 PLAC North Islington, Middlesex, England 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22 3 NOTE data updated from 1901 census 4 CONT BMD Fiche 17.4.2004 4 CONT Frater Oliver B 1881 March Holborn 1b 815 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 _UID FD878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE151164 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 RESI 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC 4 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 OCCU Bricklayers Labourer 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC Islington, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 NOTE Other Birth entries in the area are: 2 CONT Frater Oliver B 1873 Sept Islington 1b 234 2 CONT Frater Oliver Reginald B 1904 March Islington 1b 224 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census shows an Oliver at 3m in house. But the Registerof Births index has NO Oliver i 2 CONC n Islington at this time but there is one in Holborn. This is most likely the Oliver. Why Hol 2 CONC born? 2 CONT Frater Oliver B 1881 March Holborn 1b 815 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 2 CONT Islington St. Marks 4 Andover Gardens 2 CONT Oliver Frater Head married 49 House Painter b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen Frater wife married 49 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Oliver Frater son single 20 Bricklayer's labourer b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth Frater daughter single 18 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Robert Frater son single 14 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Frederick Frater son single 8 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Emily Frater daughter single 6 b: North Islington, London 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:36:01 0 @I1586@ INDI 1 NAME Edward William /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Edward William 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 3 Nov 1867 2 PLAC St Pancras, Middlesex, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE http://www.familysearch.org 3 NOTE BMD Fiche (updated) 4 CONT Frater Edward William B 1867 Dec Pancras 1b 100 3 DATA 4 DATE 11 Dec 2003 1 CHR 2 DATE 6 Dec 1869 2 PLAC Old Church St Pancras, London, England 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE http://www.familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 11 Dec 2003 1 _UID 04888A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE1519E3 1 FAMC @F568@ 1 OCCU Errand boy 2 DATE 1881 census 2 PLAC London 1 RESI 2 DATE 1881 2 PLAC 23 Caroline Street, London 2 SOUR @S38@ 3 PAGE Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 3 DATA 4 DATE 6 Apr 2003 1 NOTE LDS 1881 census shows Edmund W as name. No Edmund is shown in this area within reasonable dat 2 CONC es. There is an Edward William which matches. Presume Edmund is mis-transcribed. 2 CONT Birth Index ref: 2 CONT Frater Edward William B 1867 Dec Pancras 1b 100 2 CONT 2 CONT 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:31:16 0 @I1590@ INDI 1 NAME Annie Matilda /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Annie Matilda 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr June 1871 2 PLAC St Pancras, Middlesex, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE Frater Annie Matilda B 1871 June Pancras 1b 120 3 DATA 4 DATE 6 Apr 2003 1 _UID 06888A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE151B03 1 FAMC @F568@ 1 NOTE Birth Index entry 2 CONT Frater Annie Matilda B 1871 June Pancras 1b 120 2 CONT 2 CONT 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:31:23 0 @I1591@ INDI 1 NAME Henry James /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Henry James 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr March 1880 2 PLAC Hackney London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE from census it is about 1875 & St Pancras but only entry within 5 years in London is this one 4 CONT Frater Henry James B 1880 March Hackney 1b 499 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID 08888A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE151D23 1 FAMC @F568@ 1 NOTE James taken from BMD Entry 2 CONT 2 CONT 26 Caroline Street 2 CONT Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341045 PRO Ref R 2 CONC G11 Piece 0207 Folio 73 Page 48 Marr Age Sex Birthplace 2 CONT Edward FRATER M 33 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Mary H. FRATER M 36 F Berkshire, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Edmund W. FRATER 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Errand Boy 2 CONT Annie M. FRATER 10 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Henry J. FRATER 6 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Frederick C. FRATER 1 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Frank E. SMITH U 18 M Dulwich Rel: Son Occ: Printer 2 CONT Louisa C. SMITH U 17 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Shell Box Maker 2 CONT Walter H. SMITH 14 M Stockport Rel: Son Occ: Printer 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:31:31 0 @I1607@ INDI 1 NAME Ada Elizabeth /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Ada Elizabeth 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr March 1869 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE Frater Ada Elizabeth B 1869 March Islington 1b 237 1 CHR 2 DATE 25 Jan 1872 2 PLAC St Mary, Soho, Westminster, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 8 May 2004 1 _UID EB878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE15FF44 1 FAMC @F238@ 1 NOTE Frater Ada Elizabeth B 1869 March Islington 1b 237 2 CONT 2 CONT 1871 census 2 CONT RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91 2 CONT Household schedule number:698 2 CONT Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862] 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census entry 2 CONT Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Sour 2 CONC ce: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birt 2 CONC hplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:27:30 0 @I1608@ INDI 1 NAME Ellen /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Ellen 2 _MARNM Wilkins 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 5 Dec 1869 2 PLAC 46 Blundell Street, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE BMD shows registered 4 CONT Frater, Ellen B 1870 March Islington 1b 229 4 CONT 4 CONT Dorrell provided exact birth date 4 CONT 5 Dec 1869 46 Blundell Street, Ellen, Girl, father Oliver Frater, mother Ellen Frater famil 4 CONC y Butler, occ. father - french polisher, sig: x the mark of Ellen frater mother, reg 13 Jan 1 4 CONC 870, John Watts registrar. 3 DATA 4 DATE 28 Apr 2004 1 _UID F3878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE1507C4 1 FAMS @F1372@ 1 FAMS @F1373@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 NOTE Birth Index entry 2 CONT Frater Ellen B 1870 March Islington 1b 229 2 CONT 2 CONT FreeBMD Marriage entry. 2 CONT Frater Ellen M 1891 Sept Bethnal Green 1c 376 James Wilkins 2 CONT 2 CONT 1871 census 2 CONT 27 Blundell Street (one of 4 families) 2 CONT RG10/267 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Folio: 45 Page: 16 2 CONT Household schedule number: 78 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT Oliver Frater 19 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Islington St Andrew London Painter 2 CONT Ellen Frater 19 Shamford Hill, Yorkshire, England Wife Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT Ellen Frater 1 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT Ellen is at both entries? 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census District of Islington 2 CONT 87 Georges Road 2 CONT Ellen Frater Head Single 21 Laundress Wash employed born Islington 2 CONT James FRATER Son Single 1 born Islington 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census 2 CONT Name Age Est Birth Relation Gender Born 2 CONT James Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Head Male Holling Hill, London, England 2 CONT Ellen Wilkins 30 abt 1871 Wife Female Islington, London, England 2 CONT James Wilkins 10 abt 1891 Son Male Islington, London, England 2 CONT Nellie Wilkins 8 abt 1893 Daughter James Ellen Female Islington, London, England 2 CONT Civil parish: Islington 2 CONT Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne 2 CONT County/Island: London 2 CONT Country: England 2 CONT Registration district: Islington 2 CONT Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 63 2 CONT Household schedule number: 70 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:35:23 0 @I1612@ INDI 1 NAME Ellen /Butler/ 2 SURN Butler 2 GIVN Ellen 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 24 Nov 1851 2 PLAC 7 Chapel Road, Stoke Newington 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13 Pc-167 Fo-67 Pg-22 3 NOTE data updated from 1901 census. birth shown North Islington which differs from prev. docs 4 CONT 4 CONT In this time period Hornsey came under the Edmonton district. This leaves two possibilities 4 CONT Births Jun 1853 4 CONT Butler Ellen Maria Edmonton 3a 110 4 CONT Births Jun 1855 4 CONT Butler Ellen Edmonton 3a 103 4 CONT 4 CONT I believe there is an outside chance she could have been registered in Hackney. 2 possibiliti 4 CONC es here 4 CONT Births Dec 1851 4 CONT BUTLER Ellen Hackney 3 241 4 CONT Births Dec 1852 4 CONT Butler Ellen Hackney 1b 267 4 CONT 4 CONT Address and date provided by Sheila Saunders 6.6.2007 - Chapel Rd now Windus Road. 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1914 2 PLAC Edmonton 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 NOTE document from Sheila Saunders 6.6.2007 3 DATA 4 DATE 6 Jun 2007 1 _UID F1878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE1505A4 1 FAMS @F4@ 1 RESI 2 DATE 21 Mar 1869 2 PLAC 3 South Street, Bethnal Gree, London 2 SOUR @S45@ 3 PAGE No 202 21.3.1869 Bethnal Green 3 DATA 4 DATE 4 May 2004 1 RESI 2 DATE 12.11.1889 AND 23.12.1889 2 PLAC 9 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S44@ 3 PAGE FC270172 3 NOTE Birth certificate of son Edward Frater 3 DATA 4 DATE 18 Dec 2002 1 RESI 2 DATE 1901 2 PLAC 4 Andover Gardens, Islington, London 2 SOUR @S6@ 3 PAGE RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 3 DATA 4 DATE 31 Aug 2002 1 NOTE !This is a temporary link to child 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT RG9/129 Page 5 & 6 2 CONT 6 Matilda Street, Islington Parliamentary: Finsbury, St Andrews 2 CONT George Butler Head Marr 37 Journeyman carpenter Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Elizabeth Butler Wife Marr 36 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Elizabeth Butler Daur S 16 Servant Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT James Butler Son S 14 Servant Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Emily Butler Daur 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Ellen Butler Daur 9 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1871 census 2 CONT 27 Blundell Street (one of 4 families) 2 CONT RG10/267 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Folio: 45 Page: 16 2 CONT Household schedule number: 78 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT Oliver Frater 19 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Islington St Andrew London Painter 2 CONT Ellen Frater 19 Shamford Hill, Yorkshire, England Wife Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT Ellen Frater 1 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Andrew London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census RG13/167 Fo: 67 Pg 22 Schedule 125 2 CONT Islington St. Marks 4 Andover Gardens 2 CONT Oliver Frater Head married 49 House Painter b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen Frater wife married 49 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Oliver Frater son single 20 Bricklayer's labourer b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth Frater daughter single 18 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Robert Frater son single 14 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Frederick Frater son single 8 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT Emily Frater daughter single 6 b: North Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT Birth certificate of Edward Frater son is shown as son of Oliver Frater & Ellen Frater, forme 2 CONC rly BUTLER, Father's occupation: House Painter, signature was X the mark of Ellen Frater Moth 2 CONC er, 9 Andover Gardens, Islington. Signed 23 December 1889, Registrar: C R Butcher 2 CONT 2 CONT Andover Gardens seems to be something like a Tenement block in Andover Road. All references i 2 CONC n The Times have the address "X Andover Gardens, Andover Road". Believed to be bombed in th 2 CONC e WWII they were still there in 1944 as The Times 5 Feb 1944 Pg 10 Iss 49772 col E has Nos 2 CONC . 9 & 10 Andover Gardens due for sale by Auction on Feb 24th. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:35:15 0 @I1613@ INDI 1 NAME James John /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN James John 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 17 Jun 1846 2 PLAC London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE http://www.familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 11 Dec 2003 1 CHR 2 DATE 2 Aug 1846 2 PLAC St Andrew, Holborn, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE http://www.familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 11 Dec 2003 1 _UID C22FE463E3FDD51197CB0080C8E7DE158239 1 FAMS @F238@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 OCCU French Polisher 2 DATE 1881 census 2 PLAC London 1 NOTE Cannot find a BMD index reference. The closest is 2 CONT Name District Vol Pg 2 CONT Fraser John Chelsea III 62 2 CONT 2 CONT 1851 census 2 CONT HO 107/1507 Pg 49 2 CONT St George Bloomsbury Finsbury 2 CONT Schedule 251 2 CONT James Frater Head Mar 31 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah A Frater Wife Mar 23 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex 2 CONT James J Frater Son - 4 - St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward Frater Son - 3 - Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick Frater Son - 1 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1871 census 2 CONT RG10/211 Registration district:Pancras Sub-registration district:Tottenham Court 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel:11 Folio:87 Page:91 2 CONT Household schedule number:698 2 CONT Little Pancras Street, All Saints, Kings Cross, ST PANCRAS [1862] 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT James Frater 24 Middlesex, England Head St Pancras London French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide Frater 22 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT Ada Frater 2 Middlesex, England St Pancras London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census entry 2 CONT Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Sour 2 CONC ce: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birt 2 CONC hplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown. 2 CONT birth year is 1846 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . This is source for Christine. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:27:13 0 @I1615@ INDI 1 NAME Thomas Arthur /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Thomas Arthur 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr June 1876 2 PLAC Reading 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater Thomas Arthur B 1876 June Reading 2c 372 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID EF878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE150384 1 FAMC @F238@ 1 NOTE 1881 census entry 2 CONT Dwelling: 26 Broad Street Census Place: St Giles In Fields, London, Middlesex, England Sour 2 CONC ce: FHL Film 1341071 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0327 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birt 2 CONC hplace James FRATER M 34 M London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: French Polisher 2 CONT Adelaide FRATER M 31 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ada FRATER 12 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Florence FRATER 8 F London, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar 2 CONT Thomas FRATER 4 M Reading Rel: Son 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:27:49 0 @I1618@ INDI 1 NAME George /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN George 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Sep 1876 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, England 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE 1876 Sept Islington ? ? 3 NOTE KF looked up fiche 3 DATA 4 DATE 29 Mar 2003 1 _UID F7878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE150B04 1 FAMS @F2296@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 NOTE 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT Birth Register Index details 2 CONT Frater George B 1876 Sept Islington ? ? 2 CONT 2 CONT Text transcribed from George's army discharge papers: 2 CONT ======================== 2 CONT Private George FRATER discharge papers show 2 CONT 583599 Labour Corps 2 CONT Transfer to the reserve on 1st June 1919 2 CONT living at 140 Elmore Road, Islington 2 CONT 2 CONT Conduct sheet shows he attested 11/12/1915 Whitehall Street 2 CONT Army form 103 was extracted 2/3/1920 and sent to officer in charge of records Nottingham 2 CONT Army Form B103 Casualty Form - Active Service 2 CONT Regimental number: 8466 Rank: Private Name: Frater George 2 CONT Enlisted (a): 15/9/1916 Terms of servcie (a): Service reckons from (a) 15/9/1016 2 CONT Date of promotion to present rank: - Date of appointment to lance rank: - Numerical po 2 CONC sition on roll of NCOs: - 2 CONT Extended: - Re-engaged: - Qualification (b): - 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Southampton 3 Jan 1917 2 CONT Havre 4 Jan 1917 2 CONT 5 Jan 1917 YIBD Arrives No 7 TREY Base Dept, Havre 4 Jan 1917 2 CONT 4 Feb 1917 YIBD To 15th Royal Irish Rifles 4 Feb 1917. NR. 2 CONT 22 Feb 1917 No 2 Reg Transferred to t8th (TF) Res Br Lon Rgt 22 Feb 1917 2 CONT Inf Dic & Posted to 15th Ryl Irish Rifles 2 CONT A.O. 204 & ACI 1499 of 1916 New No 44403 2 CONT Auth DA G CR 39686/7 2 CONT O i/c Capt for Terr Inf 2 CONC y Southern section 2 CONT GHQ 3rd Echelon 2 CONT 27 4/8 (unread) Leave Field 4/19.2.18 Roll 2 CONT Ditto Sick to 7.11 13 5/18 B(unread) 2 CONT 15ccs adm Arthritis Field 13 5/18 6 A T 14 5/ 2 CONC 18 E & 1647 2 CONT 32S Hosp adm myalgia Field 13 5/18 HA (unread n 2 CONC umber) 2 CONT (unread) adm ? Hosp Boulogne (unread) (unread) 2 CONT 106a Dept Dis to Labour Corps Base Dept Henriville 5.6.18 HA24517 2 CONT 2 CONT Next of kin Wife E. Frater, 60 Orpingly Road, Holloway 2 CONT o/o Lab Corps 2 CONT Transfd to 73 Labour Company 2 CONT with effect from 11 4/18 2 CONT Benefit of the service +c 2 CONT 24 6/18 L.C Rgre No 583599 G Bramwell Capt Lieut for o i/c Inf Sec No 2 2 CONT O C Coy Joined Coy Field 11.6.18 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT (below this is difficult to read but here are bits that I can) 2 CONT Posted to 26 * *.*.19 2 CONT Auth DAG CRN 762849876 2 CONT * To * R (10a) 2 CONT 14 * 19 Demob 4 * 19 2 CONT (signature and who o i/ 2 CONC c was but unreadable) 2 CONT 2 CONT Service and Casualty Form 2 CONT Rank: Private 2 CONT Surname: Frater 2 CONT Christian name: George 2 CONT Army Form: AFB2512 2 CONT British: 2 CONT Year of Birth: 1876 2 CONT 2 CONT Labour Corps 583599 2 CONT (the word MEDAL is stamped on the card) 2 CONT 2 CONT Service reckons from 11.12.15 2 CONT 2 CONT Trade: Dealer 2 CONT Married 2 CONT 2 CONT Next of Kin: (wife) Emily Frater 65 Orpingley Road, Holloway 2 CONT 2 CONT Attested 11.12.15 2 CONT To Army Res 12.12.15 2 CONT mob 13. 9.16 2 CONT 3/1 Lon Regt Posted Pte 14. 9.16 2 CONT Royal I Rifles 15 Transferred Pte 20. 2.17 2 CONT Lab Corps Transferred Pte 11. 4.18 2 CONT 12 Coy 2 CONT PoW Coy 265 Posted Pte 3. 1.19 2 CONT Character 2 CONT docs to Chelsea 2 CONT 2 CONT (There is a stamp whose headings cannot be read but the hand written comments show) 2 CONT 1.6.19 2 CONT Nottingham 2 CONT 140 Elmore Street, Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT (Down the right hand side is written) 2 CONT Home 11.12.15 to 2.1.17 2 CONT France 3.1.17 to 2.5.19 2 yrs 120 2 CONT Home 3.5.19 2 CONT 2 CONT He was awarded a £5 supplementary gratuity 2 CONT 2 CONT Next award refers to Rheumatism and that he is awarded 5/6 over 26 wks C from 2.6.19 2 CONT Number of childredn and allowance granted is 3/2 for three 2 CONT signed by J H Underhill 2.6.19 2 CONT The Children are named but difficult to read 2 CONT George O 19.10.11 2 CONT Charles * 18.5.13 2 CONT * 18.7.15 2 CONT 2 CONT Renewal award 2 CONT Pension awarded for children expiring 3.2.20 2 CONT 2 CONT Medical Report on discharge 2 CONT 1 Unit and Corps: 256th Labour 2 CONT 2 & 3 Regtl No: 593599 Rank: Pte 2 CONT 4 Name: Frater, George 2 CONT 5 Age last B'day: 44 2 CONT 6 Posted for duty on 13.9.1916 at Salisbury Plain 2 CONT 7 (can't read) 2 CONT 8 not an injury 2 CONT 9 N/A 2 CONT 10 nil (disability) 2 CONT 12: place of origin of disability: France 2 CONT 13: no documenting evidence of having been in hospital. States that he was in Hospital fo 2 CONC r a * in the war of 1917. He * 2 CONT 2 CONT Cheltenham Terrace 2 CONT 2 CONT (interesting that his discharge papers say that nothing his wrong with him, but later gets pe 2 CONC nsion) 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Later in the discharge papers are earlier medical documents that state that illness of Rhumat 2 CONC ism & cram was caused by in* is shell holes March 1918 2 CONT and hospitals given are No 1 CCS & No. 10 Con Camp. 2 CONT Also othe medical shows diagnosis of Rheumatism 2 CONT with a present condition of: 2 CONT Heart & Lungs show no notable physical signs of lision. Left knee somewhat stiff and sligh 2 CONC t * on movement. 2 CONT 2 CONT Date and location of this medical cannot be read. 2 CONT 2 CONT Medical History document shows 2 CONT Born Holloway, Middx 2 CONT 39 at time of record 2 CONT Trade Clothing Dealer 2 CONT Height 5ft 3 3/4 2 CONT weight 126 lbs 2 CONT Chest: 34 1/2 2 CONT Range of expansion 2 1/2 2 CONT Physical development Good 2 CONT Vaccination marks: 4 when vaccinated: Infancy 2 CONT 2 CONT (says something in slight defacts but cannot read it) 2 CONT 2 CONT Relisted Central London Recruiting Depot, Whitehall, SW 13 Sep 1916 2 CONT 2 CONT Joined on enlist: 1st London Regt 2 CONT then Royal Isish Rifles 2 CONT then Labour Corp 2 CONT =============================== 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:35:41 0 @I1619@ INDI 1 NAME James /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN James 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Sep 1878 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, England 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE 1878 Sept Islington 1b 326b 3 NOTE KF lookup on fiche 3 DATA 4 DATE 29 Mar 0003 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1954 2 PLAC Islington 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 PAGE email from Sheila 3 DATA 4 DATE 8 Mar 2007 1 _UID FB878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE150F44 1 FAMS @F1446@ 1 FAMC @F4@ 1 NOTE 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd 2 CONT Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex B 2 CONC irthplace 2 CONT Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) 2 CONT Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife 2 CONT Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau 2 CONT William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Islington South West District 65 London 2 CONT RG12/163 Page 55 2 CONT Schedule 303 7 Hope Street 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London 2 CONT George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT * (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London 2 CONT Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London 2 CONT Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London 2 CONT Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT Register of Birth details 2 CONT Frater James B 1878 Sept Islington 1b 326b 1 CHAN 2 DATE 6 Apr 2008 3 TIME 08:35:50 0 @I1620@ INDI 1 NAME William Charles /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN William Charles 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Mar 1873 2 PLAC St Pancras, London 1 DEAT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1873 2 PLAC Pancras District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater William Charles D 1873 Dec Pancras 1b 95 0 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID F5878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE1509E4 1 FAMC @F4@ 2 PEDI challenged 1 NOTE Entry from lookup 2 CONT Frater William B 1874 Dec Islington 1b 243 2 CONT Frater William Charles B 1873 March Pancras 1b 168 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census 2 CONT Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Fil 2 CONC m 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Oliv 2 CONC er FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House) Ellen FRATE 2 CONC R M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middles 2 CONC ex, England Rel: Dau William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son George FRAT 2 CONC ER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, En 2 CONC gland Rel: Son Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son 1 CHAN 2 DATE 11 Sep 2006 3 TIME 18:30:18 0 @I1665@ INDI 1 NAME Eliza Dundas /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Eliza Dundas 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1855 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, England 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE updated birth year 4 CONT Frater Eliza Dundas B 1855 Dec Islington 1b 183 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID E4878A9B00FED51197CB0080C8E7DE15F8D4 1 FAMS @F950@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 OCCU Machinist 2 DATE 1881 census 2 PLAC London 1 NOTE 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT on the 1871 Census this was found 2 CONT (why was she not living with James (husband) 2 CONT 12 Drummond Crescent, St Pancras 2 CONT Mary Richardson Head ? 50 Laundress Middlesex, St Pancras 2 CONT Sarah Frater Wife Married 41 Seamstres Middlesex, Kensington 2 CONT Eliza Frater Daughter Unmarried 16 Seamstres Middlesex, Islington 2 CONT 2 CONT Is this the right James from 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 6 Charlotte Terrace Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: F 2 CONC HL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0231 Folio 79 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplac 2 CONC e James FRATER M 61 F Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor Eliza D. FRATER U 25 F Isl 2 CONC ington, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Arthur FRATER U 21 M Islington, Middlese 2 CONC x, England Rel: Son Occ: Chair & Sofa Wood Carver 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT Eliza Dundas b 1851not 1856 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census 2 CONT Wood Green District 73 Middlesex 2 CONT RG13/1257 Page 22 2 CONT 21 Moselle Avenue 2 CONT Michael CATALANI Head M 45 Plasterers Moulder Italy (Italian subject) 2 CONT Eliza CATALANI Wife M 45 - Islington 2 CONT Dante CATALANI Son S 6 - Islington 2 CONT Roma CATALANI Daur S 16 Silk Silk Shirt/Tie maker Islington 2 CONT May CATALANI Daur S 9 - Islington 2 CONT 2 CONT Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown. 2 CONT She has birth year as 1855 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . 1 CHAN 2 DATE 13 Jun 2007 3 TIME 22:47:42 0 @I1738@ INDI 1 NAME Sarah Ann /Welch/ 2 SURN Welch 2 GIVN Sarah Ann 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 31 Aug 1826 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE Batch C147505 3 NOTE This is the closes entry of birth to Sarah Ann that can be found. The father's name is John a 4 CONC nd shows the mother as "Sarah" no surname given. 3 DATA 4 DATE 28 Nov 2004 1 CHR 2 DATE 24 Sep 1826 2 PLAC St James. Westminster, London 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE Batch C147505 3 NOTE This is the closes entry of birth to Sarah Ann that can be found. The father's name is John a 4 CONC nd shows the mother as "Sarah" no surname given. 3 DATA 4 DATE 28 Nov 2004 1 DEAT 2 DATE Qtr June 1898 2 PLAC St Pancras, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 NOTE Frater Sarah D 1898 June Pancras 1b 88 71 3 DATA 4 DATE 18 Apr 2003 1 _UID 82CDB0B05EFCD51197CB0080C8E7DE157345 1 FAMS @F5@ 1 NOTE Believed to have found a link in Knightsbridge. Contacted Mike WELCH to discuss possible link 2 CONC . Both his Welch and Titchiner families were in the printing business as was James FRATER. Th 2 CONC e locale and dates match and so there is a possibility. Mike suggests that there is a possibi 2 CONC lity that Sarah Ann is the daughter of John Welch. KF has contacted St Paul's, Wilton Place t 2 CONC o see where the Parish Records are kept to check the records. Am awaiting a reply. 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT surname Welch place of birth Knightsbridge and year of birth 1827 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . This is the source for Leicester. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1851 census 2 CONT HO 107/1507 Pg 49 2 CONT St George Bloomsbury Finsbury 2 CONT Schedule 251 2 CONT James Frater Head Mar 31 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah A Frater Wife Mar 23 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex 2 CONT James J Frater Son - 4 - St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward Frater Son - 3 - Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick Frater Son - 1 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT on the 1871 Census this was found 2 CONT (why was she not living with James (husband) 2 CONT 12 Drummond Crescent, St Pancras 2 CONT Mary Richardson Head ? 50 Laundress Middlesex, St Pancras 2 CONT Sarah Frater Wife Married 41 Seamstress Middlesex, Kensington 2 CONT Eliza Frater Daughter Unmarried 16 Seamstres Middlesex, Islington 2 CONT 2 CONT Why was she living with a Mary Richardson? Mary is found in 1881 living with her brother an 2 CONC d showing as unmarried. Where is Sarah at this point. in 1881 Eliza is living with her fathe 2 CONC r in Charlotte Terrace. Is Sarah working in another Household in 1881 but the family surnam 2 CONC e is mis-translated? or is the entry below correct? 2 CONT 2 CONT Possible birth from IGI. Only one with father John: 2 CONT Sarah Ann WELCH b: 31 Aug 1826 c: 24 Sept 1826 St James, Westminster, London to John WELCH an 2 CONC d Sarah 1 CHAN 2 DATE 23 Mar 2008 3 TIME 16:57:12 0 @I1744@ INDI 1 NAME Frederick /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Frederick 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1 Feb 1850 2 PLAC Islington District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater Frederick B 1850 March Islington 3 305 4 CONT Birth date from IGI familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 CHR 2 DATE 7 Mar 1852 2 PLAC Old Church St. Pancras, London 1 DEAT 2 DATE Qtr Sept 1887 2 PLAC Shoreditch District, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Index 3 NOTE Frater Frederick D 1887 Sept Shoreditch 1a|c 104 38 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 _UID 93F42AC063FCD51197CB0080C8E7DE153A56 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 NOTE based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT born 1850 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . 2 CONT 2 CONT 1851 census 2 CONT HO 107/1507 Pg 49 2 CONT St George Bloomsbury Finsbury 2 CONT Schedule 251 2 CONT James Frater Head Mar 31 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah A Frater Wife Mar 23 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex 2 CONT James J Frater Son - 4 - St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward Frater Son - 3 - Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick Frater Son - 1 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census. 2 CONT RG10/259 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Folio: 49 Page: 19 2 CONT Household schedule number: 120 2 CONT 6 Charlotte Street 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor 2 CONT L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker 2 CONT Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1881 census 2 CONT Possible entry for Frederick (cannot find any other entry). Year of birth matches and occupat 2 CONC ion is in the Printing trade. James (Father) was a Printer Compositer. This makes it a sensib 2 CONC le choice for mispelling. 2 CONT 2 CONT 16 Euston St London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0198 / 107 Page Number 29 2 CONT Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability 2 CONT Frederick FRASER Head M Male 31 London, London, Middlesex, England Lithographer 2 CONT Martha FRASER Wife M Female 27 London, London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT 2 CONT Another possibility is 2 CONT 112 Gloucester Road London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Family History Library Film 1341040 2 CONT Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0183 / 118 Page Number 5 2 CONT Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability 2 CONT Frederick FRASER Head M Male 33 Camberwell, Surrey, England Piano Forte Maker 2 CONT Emily FRASER Wife M Female 30 St Pancras, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Emily FRASER Daur Female 4 St Pancras, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Frederick FRASER Son Male 2 St Pancras, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Louisa FRASER Daur Female 1 St Pancras, Middlesex, England 2 CONT 2 CONT And anorther possibility (picked because in 1871 he is shown as a Cabinet Maker. So he may ha 2 CONC ve changed to a French Polisher. 2 CONT Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability 2 CONT Margaret MULLIGAN Head W Female 58 Westminster, Middlesex, England Glass Mende 2 CONC r 2 CONT Frederick FRAZER Son U Male 28 Westminster, Middlesex, England French Polishe 2 CONC r 2 CONT George T. MULLIGAN Son U Male 18 St George Southwark, Surrey, England Railway Ca 2 CONC rman 2 CONT John T. FRAZER Grandson Male 9 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar 2 CONT William H. COLEMAN Brother U Male 13 Westminster, Middlesex, England Warehousema 2 CONC n 2 CONT Nathaniel ODDY Lodger U Male 18 Brighton, Sussex, England Cook N D 2 CONT 2 CONT Dwelling 290 Waterloo Rd, Southwark St George Martyr, Surrey, England 2 CONT PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 0530/129 Page No 27 2 CONT 2 CONT This is a possible death BMD entry for Frederick 2 CONT Deaths Sep 1887 2 CONT Frater Frederick 38 Shoreditch 1c 104 1 CHAN 2 DATE 23 Mar 2008 3 TIME 16:57:38 0 @I1746@ INDI 1 NAME James /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN James 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1819 2 PLAC Scotland 1 DEAT 2 DATE Qtr Sept 1891 2 PLAC Islington, Middlesex, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 NOTE Frater James D 1891 Sept Islington 1b 186 72 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2003 1 _UID 84CDB0B05EFCD51197CB0080C8E7DE157565 1 FAMS @F5@ 1 FAMC @F595@ 1 OCCU Brassturner 2 DATE 21 Mar 1869 2 PLAC Bethnal Green 2 SOUR @S45@ 3 NOTE Marriage certificate of son Oliver to Ellen Butler. 3 DATA 4 DATE 4 May 2004 1 OCCU Printer Compositor 2 DATE 1881 2 PLAC London 1 NOTE email from George Whitelaw 22.5.2005 2 CONT I have found on the Index 1841 census this family of Fraters living 2 CONT in the Gorbals Glasgow. 2 CONT James age 55 2 CONT Margaret age 50 2 CONT James age 20 2 CONT William age 18 2 CONT Alexander age 13 2 CONT 2 CONT email from Barbara Nelleson 27.5.2005 2 CONT Piece: SCT1841/644/ 2 Place: Glasgow-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 58 Civil Parish: Gorba 2 CONC ls Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 21 Page: 1 Address: Portugal Street Sur 2 CONC name First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks 2 CONT FRATER James M 55 Carpet Weaver Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER Margaret F 50 Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER James M 20 Compositor Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER William M 18 Carpet Weaver Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER Alexander M 13 Calico Printer Lanarkshire 2 CONT 2 CONT The link of James b1819 to James son of James b Polmont d. 1855 Glasgow was provided by Edwar 2 CONC d Charles research. This may have come from family stories or family documents that he had. E 2 CONC dward C would certainly have been able to get stories from his Grandfather William (James's s 2 CONC on) as he lived until 1938. William may have talked about James (his father)'s family in Scot 2 CONC land. This is certainly feasible. 2 CONT 2 CONT 1851 census 2 CONT HO 107/1507 Pg 49 2 CONT St George Bloomsbury Finsbury 2 CONT Schedule 251 2 CONT James Frater Head Mar 31 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah A Frater Wife Mar 23 - Knightsbridge, Middlesex 2 CONT James J Frater Son - 4 - St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward Frater Son - 3 - Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick Frater Son - 1 Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census. 2 CONT RG10/259 Registration district: Islington 2 CONT Folio:49 Page: 19 Household schedule number: 120 2 CONT 6 Charlotte Street 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor 2 CONT L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker 2 CONT Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT 2 CONT Is this the right James from 1881 Census 2 CONT Dwelling: 6 Charlotte Terrace Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England Source: F 2 CONC HL Film 1341050 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0231 Folio 79 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplac 2 CONC e 2 CONT James FRATER M 61 F Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor 2 CONT Eliza D. FRATER U 25 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist 2 CONT Arthur FRATER U 21 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Chair & Sofa Wood Carver 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT 11 Gainford Street, Islington 2 CONT RG12/155 Page 19/166 2 CONT James FRATER head married 71 Printer Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Arthur FRATER son Single 32 C* Islington, London 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT occ: compositor born in 1819 not 1820 2 CONT 2 CONT Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown. 2 CONT on marriage at 20 July 1845 he was compositor 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . This shows him married on 20 July 1845 in ST. Paul's Middlesex. He is shown as being a comp 2 CONC ositor. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 23 Mar 2008 3 TIME 16:57:04 0 @I1749@ INDI 1 NAME Harry Joseph /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Harry Joseph 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 8 Nov 1853 2 PLAC St Pancras, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 NOTE BMD Birth Ref: 4 CONT Frater Harry Joseph B 1853 Dec Pancras 1b 63 4 CONT Birth date from IGI on familysearch.org 3 DATA 4 DATE 21 Apr 2003 1 CHR 2 DATE 9 Apr 1854 2 PLAC Old Church St. Pancras, London 1 _UID 95F42AC063FCD51197CB0080C8E7DE153C76 1 FAMS @F985@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 NOTE 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census. 2 CONT RG10/259 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Folio: 49 Page: 19 2 CONT Household schedule number: 120 2 CONT 6 Charlotte Street 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor 2 CONT L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker 2 CONT Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT 2 CONT Marriages Qtr Sep 1889 2 CONT FRATER Harry Joseph Holborn 1b 1204 2 CONT INSLEY Edith Holborn 1b 1204 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT Somers Town District 13 St Pancras London 2 CONT RG12/128 Page 27 2 CONT Schedule 185 4 Little Drummond Street 2 CONT Harry J FRATER Head M 37 French Polisher London 2 CONT Edith FRATER Wife M 30 - Birmingham 2 CONT Rachel E FRATER Daur 4 - London 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 census shows Edith & Rachel. Edith shows still as married but Harry is nowhere to be see 2 CONC n. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 21 Jun 2007 3 TIME 07:13:51 0 @I1905@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID C346822A4F07D61197CB0080C8E7DE1576E9 1 FAMS @F621@ 1 FAMC @F80@ 0 @I1906@ INDI 1 NAME Dorothy Gertrude /White/ 2 SURN White 2 GIVN Dorothy Gertrude 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 7 Jul 1922 2 PLAC Coalville, Leicester 1 DEAT 2 DATE 22 Feb 1985 2 PLAC Glangwili Hospital, Carmarthen 1 _UID 02AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15D54F 1 FAMS @F80@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 7 Jul 2002 3 TIME 01:00:00 0 @I1907@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 04AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15D76F 1 FAMS @F622@ 1 FAMS @F623@ 1 FAMC @F80@ 0 @I1908@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 06AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15D98F 1 FAMS @F624@ 1 FAMC @F80@ 0 @I1909@ INDI 1 NAME Linda Elaine /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Linda Elaine 2 _MARNM Edwards 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 16 Oct 1952 2 PLAC Coalville, Leicester 1 BURI 2 PLAC Llandyry Church, Pinged 1 _UID 08AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15DBAF 1 FAMS @F625@ 1 FAMS @F626@ 1 FAMS @F627@ 1 FAMC @F80@ 1 CHAN 2 DATE 3 Aug 2002 3 TIME 01:00:00 1 OBJE 2 FORM JPG 2 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\photos\jpgs\geography\Edwards Jason Mark and Mum Lynda.pic taken in 2002..JPG 2 TITL 2 NOTE 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 0 @I1910@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 0AAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15DDCF 1 FAMC @F80@ 0 @I1911@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 0CAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15DFEF 1 FAMS @F628@ 1 FAMC @F80@ 0 @I1912@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 0EAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15E10F 1 FAMS @F621@ 0 @I1913@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 11AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15E43F 1 FAMS @F629@ 1 FAMC @F621@ 0 @I1914@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 13AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15E65F 1 FAMC @F621@ 0 @I1915@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 15AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15E87F 1 FAMC @F621@ 0 @I1916@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 17AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15EA9F 1 FAMC @F621@ 0 @I1917@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 19AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15ECBF 1 FAMC @F621@ 0 @I1918@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 1BAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15EEDF 1 FAMS @F622@ 0 @I1919@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 1EAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15F10F 1 FAMS @F623@ 0 @I1920@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 21AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15F43F 1 FAMC @F622@ 0 @I1921@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 23AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15F65F 1 FAMS @F630@ 1 FAMC @F622@ 0 @I1922@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 25AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15F87F 1 FAMS @F624@ 0 @I1923@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 28AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15FBAF 1 FAMC @F624@ 0 @I1924@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 2AAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15FDCF 1 FAMC @F624@ 0 @I1925@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 2CAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15FFEF 1 FAMC @F624@ 0 @I1926@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 2EAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15010F 1 FAMS @F625@ 0 @I1927@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 31AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15043F 1 FAMS @F626@ 0 @I1928@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 34AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15076F 1 FAMS @F627@ 0 @I1929@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 37AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE150A9F 1 FAMC @F625@ 0 @I1930@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 39AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE150CBF 1 FAMC @F625@ 0 @I1931@ INDI 1 NAME Jason Mark /Edwards/ 2 SURN Edwards 2 GIVN Jason Mark 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 22 Apr 1971 1 DEAT 2 DATE 24 Aug 1992 2 PLAC Pontyberem 1 BURI 2 DATE 29 Aug 1992 2 PLAC Llandyry Church, Pinged 1 _UID 3BAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE150EDF 1 FAMC @F626@ 1 NOTE dates provided by Maggie Frater. Picture of resting place also provided by Maggie Frater whic 2 CONC h shows date of 1972 to 1993. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 3 Aug 2002 3 TIME 01:00:00 1 OBJE 2 FORM JPG 2 FILE C:\My Documents\kf\geneology\photos\jpgs\geography\Edwards Jason Mark and Mum Lynda.pic taken in 2002..JPG 2 TITL 2 NOTE 2 _SCBK Y 2 _PRIM Y 2 _TYPE PHOTO 2 _SSHOW Y 0 @I1932@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 3DAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE1510FF 1 FAMC @F627@ 0 @I1933@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 3FAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15121F 1 FAMC @F627@ 0 @I1934@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 41AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15143F 1 FAMC @F627@ 0 @I1935@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 43AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15165F 1 FAMS @F628@ 0 @I1936@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 46AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15198F 1 FAMC @F628@ 0 @I1937@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 48AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE151BAF 1 FAMC @F628@ 0 @I1938@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 4AAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE151DCF 1 FAMS @F629@ 0 @I1939@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 4DAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE1520FF 1 FAMC @F629@ 0 @I1940@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 4FAA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15221F 1 FAMC @F629@ 0 @I1941@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 51AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15243F 1 FAMS @F630@ 0 @I1942@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX F 1 _UID 54AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15276F 1 FAMC @F630@ 0 @I1943@ INDI 1 NAME LIVING 1 SEX M 1 _UID 56AA66301D0BD61197CB0080C8E7DE15298F 1 FAMC @F630@ 0 @I1969@ INDI 1 NAME William J /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN William J 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 6 Nov 1857 2 PLAC Pancras District 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE BMD Fiche 3 NOTE Frater William B 1857 Dec Pancras 1b 103 3 DATA 4 DATE 17 Apr 2004 1 DEAT 2 DATE 12 Jul 1938 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 PAGE From Christine Frater 3 NOTE Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown. 3 DATA 4 DATE 14 Jun 2003 1 _UID 02FD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE154DAC 1 FAMS @F633@ 1 FAMC @F5@ 1 NOTE based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT born 6.11.1857 called William of Clerkwell (presumed he lived there) 2 CONT only had one son? 2 CONT 2 CONT BMD Death ref 2 CONT Frater William J D 1938 Sept Islington 1b 234 80 1858 2 CONT 2 CONT This is a bit late for William could it be a son marrying another FOORD? 2 CONT Frater William Oliver M 1902 Dec Islington 1b 495 From Free BMD Annie Elizabeth Foord 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . He is referred to as William Frater of Clerkenwell. (Why the name of the area attached? [KF 2 CONC ]) born 6 N 1857 presumably for November. Married in Trinity Church 1 F 1880 died 12 Jy 193 2 CONC 8 Type r (I don't understand this reference [KF]) 2 CONT 2 CONT 1861 census 2 CONT Pentonville District 7 Clerkenwell St James Middlesex 2 CONT RG 9/196 Page 65 2 CONT Schedule 389 29 North Avenue 2 CONT James FRATER Head M 41 Compositor Scotland 2 CONT Sarah FRATER Wife M 33 - *, Middlesex 2 CONT James FRATER Son S 15 French Polisher St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Edward FRATER Son S 13 French Polisher Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Frederick FRATER Son S 11 Scholar Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Oliver FRATER Son S 9 Scholar Bloomsbury, Middlesex 2 CONT Harry FRATER Son S 7 Scholar St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex 2 CONT Eliza FRATER daur S 5 - St Mary, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT William FRATER Son S 2 Scholar St Pancras, Islington, Middlesex 2 CONT Arthur FRATER Son S 1 Scholar Clerkenwell, Middlesex 2 CONT 2 CONT James also lived in 6 Charlotte Street during the 1871 census. 2 CONT RG10/259 Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West 2 CONT ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Folio: 49 Page: 19 2 CONT Household schedule number: 120 2 CONT 6 Charlotte Street 2 CONT Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 2 CONT J Frater 52 Scotland Head Islington All Saints London Printer Compositor 2 CONT L K (possibly F K) Frater 21 Islington Son Islington All Saints London Cabinet Maker 2 CONT Hy G Frater 17 Marylebone Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Wm Frater 13 St Pancras Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT Arthur Frater 11 Islington Son Islington All Saints London 2 CONT 2 CONT Although William is not found the following person is found on the 1881 census familysearch.o 2 CONC rg. 2 CONT 1881 Census 2 CONT 3 Adelaide Place 2 CONT London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Family History Library Film 1341087 2 CONT Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0402 / 48 Page Number 41 2 CONT Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability 2 CONT William PREATER Head M Male 27 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England General Labourer 2 CONT Ellen PREATER Wife M Female 26 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Laundress 2 CONT William PREATER Son U Male 4 m Hoxton, Middlesex, England 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT 11 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell 2 CONT William Frater Head 33 Type Founderer Pancras, London 2 CONT Ellen Frater Wife 31 Clerkenwell 2 CONT William Frater Son 10 Clerkenwell 2 CONT Charles Frater Son 7 Islington 2 CONT Lily Frater Daughter 2 Clerkenwell 2 CONT Alice Frater Daughter 5 mths Clerkenwell 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 Scotland Census 2 CONT Name: William Frater Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Where born 2 CONC : England, London 2 CONT Spouse's name : Ellen 2 CONT Registration Number: 685/2 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Edinburgh St Step 2 CONC hen County: Midlothian 2 CONT Address: 21 Jamaica Street Occupation: Type-founder ED: 119 Page: 6 2 CONT Household schedule number: 46 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1901_376 2 CONT Household Members: Name Age 2 CONT William Frater 42 2 CONT Ellen Frater 49 2 CONT Alice Frater 10 2 CONT Albert Frater 8 2 CONT Lilly Frater 2 2 CONT Mary Frater 5 1 CHAN 2 DATE 16 Jun 2007 3 TIME 15:49:22 0 @I1970@ INDI 1 NAME Elizabeth Ellen /Foord/ 2 SURN Foord 2 GIVN Elizabeth Ellen 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE Qtr Dec 1861 2 PLAC Pancras St District, London 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 NOTE Births Dec 1861 4 CONT FOORD El*or Elizabeth Pancras 1b 66 3 DATA 4 DATE 27 Feb 2007 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1947 1 _UID 04FD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE154FCC 1 FAMS @F633@ 1 NOTE based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT all this persons details 2 CONT 2 CONT Dwelling 10 North Street Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Fil 2 CONC m 1341077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0355 / 47 Page Number 14 2 CONT Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation 2 CONT Jane FOORD Wife (Head) M Female 58 London, Middlesex, England Nurse 2 CONT John D. FOORD Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Polisher 2 CONT Frances A. FOORD Daur U Female 24 London, Middlesex, England Machinist 2 CONT Ellen E. FRATER Daur M Female 19 London, Middlesex, England Dress Maker 2 CONT Willie FRATER Gran Son U Male 11m London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Mary PHILLIPS Relative M Female 51 London, Middlesex, England 2 CONT Henry F. PHILLIPS Relative U Male 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar 2 CONT email from Patrick Davies 4.8.2007 2 CONT The Mary Phillips "relative" was born MARY CHARLOTTE COWCHER, sister of JANE and GEORGE WILLI 2 CONC AM. Henry Phillips was her son 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . The census shows her as Ellen E but the tree produced by Edward (grandson) is Elizabeth El 2 CONC len who dies in 1947 age 85 2 CONT 2 CONT 1891 census 2 CONT 11 Busaco Street, Clerkenwell 2 CONT William Frater Head 33 Type Founderer Pancras, London 2 CONT Ellen Frater Wife 31 Clerkenwell 2 CONT William Frater Son 10 Clerkenwell 2 CONT Charles Frater Son 7 Islington 2 CONT Lily Frater Daughter 2 Clerkenwell 2 CONT Alice Frater Daughter 5 mths Clerkenwell 2 CONT 2 CONT 1901 Scotland Census 2 CONT Name: William Frater Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Head Where born 2 CONC : England, London 2 CONT Spouse's name : Ellen 2 CONT Registration Number: 685/2 Registration district: St Andrew Civil parish: Edinburgh St Step 2 CONC hen County: Midlothian 2 CONT Address: 21 Jamaica Street Occupation: Type-founder ED: 119 Page: 6 2 CONT Household schedule number: 46 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1901_376 2 CONT Household Members: Name Age 2 CONT William Frater 42 2 CONT Ellen Frater 49 2 CONT Alice Frater 10 2 CONT Albert Frater 8 2 CONT Lilly Frater 2 2 CONT Mary Frater 5 1 CHAN 2 DATE 4 Aug 2007 3 TIME 19:47:59 0 @I1971@ INDI 1 NAME James /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN James 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE 30 May 1781 2 PLAC Polmont, Scotland 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE IGI from familysearch.org 3 NOTE Batch Number: 7225817 Sheet: 99 Source Call No.: 0822045 3 DATA 4 DATE 1 May 2004 1 CHR 2 DATE 3 Jun 1781 2 PLAC Polmont, Scotland 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 PAGE IGI familysearch.org 3 NOTE Batch Number: 7225817 Sheet: 99 Source Call No.: 0822045 4 CONT 4 CONT extract from scotlandspeople.gov.uk 4 CONT FRAITER James M B 1781 3 Jun 1781 Polmont Janet Forgie John 487/00 0001 FR155 3 DATA 4 DATE 1 May 2004 1 DEAT 2 DATE 22 Mar 1855 2 PLAC 17 Portugal Street, Glasgow, Lanark 2 SOUR @S9@ 3 PAGE Page 92 3 NOTE Death certificate 4 CONT District of Hutchesontown, Glasgow. 4 CONT James Frater male 74 years born Polmont, Stirlingshire. 38 years in Glasgow. Father William F 4 CONC rater Quarryman deceased (a note on the left says Error in col 5. father JOHN per OPR 487/1 p 4 CONC age 1871) Wife: Margaret Miller deceased. Children John age 48, Margaret age:38 James age: 3 4 CONC 5 William age 32. Died in 17 Portugal Street, Glasgow. Died of Bronchitis with whome Dibilit 4 CONC y 7 days. As certified by John Leech MD who saw the deceased March 22nd. Buried in Calton Bur 4 CONC ial Ground, Glasgow. Informant was William Frater son. Registered March 24th 1855 at Glasgow 4 CONC . Archibald Monteith Assistant Registrar 3 DATA 4 DATE 29 Nov 2003 1 BURI 2 DATE 25 Mar 1855 2 PLAC Calton Burial Ground, Glasgow, lair 168 2 SOUR @S53@ 3 PAGE Mitchell Library 3 NOTE I can confirm that James Frater is buried in Calton, date of burial, 25th March 4 CONT 1855, Aged 74, 17 Portugal Street. 4 CONT 4 CONT There is a lair number, 168, however, there are no complete lair registers in 4 CONT existence. I am unable to confirm if any other family members are interred in 4 CONT that lair. 4 CONT 4 CONT I have checked the lair owners register and it seems that Thomas Hardie who was 4 CONT a mason from Calton purchased it on November 14th 1790. 4 CONT 4 CONT The Old Parish Records for Calton include burials 1792-1854, however, these are 4 CONT arranged by date, not by name. 4 CONT 4 CONT If you can arrange to view these films, you may discover other family members. 4 CONT 4 CONT Regards 4 CONT Christine McGilly 4 CONT Special Collections 4 CONT Mitchell Library 4 CONT Glasgow 4 CONT 4 CONT CALTON BURIAL GROUND 4 CONT I refer to your recent communication regarding the above and wish to advise that Calton Buria 4 CONC l is still a small walled burial ground and contrary to some reports has not been converted i 4 CONC nto a park. 4 CONT The limited archive material which exists for the burial ground is held in the Mitchell Libra 4 CONC ry, Archive and Special Collection Dept. to whom I have forwarded your enquiry. 3 DATA 4 DATE 26 May 2005 1 _UID 09FD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE15541C 1 FAMS @F595@ 1 FAMC @F634@ 1 NOTE email from George Whitelaw 22.5.2005 2 CONT I have found on the Index 1841 census this family of Fraters living in the Gorbals Glasgow. 2 CONT James age 55 2 CONT Margaret age 50 2 CONT James age 20 2 CONT William age 18 2 CONT Alexander age 13 2 CONT 2 CONT email from Barbara Nelleson 27.5.2005 2 CONT Piece: SCT1841/644/ 2 Place: Glasgow-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 58 Civil Parish: Gorba 2 CONC ls Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 21 Page: 1 Address: Portugal Street Sur 2 CONC name First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks 2 CONT FRATER James M 55 Carpet Weaver Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER Margaret F 50 Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER James M 20 Compositor Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER William M 18 Carpet Weaver Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER Alexander M 13 Calico Printer Lanarkshire 2 CONT 2 CONT email from Jack MILLS 2 CONT 1851 cens 644-2 (614) Ed 18 p 14 (Gorbals Proper) 2 CONT 17 Portugal St. 2 CONT James FRATER, head, widower, 69, carpet weaver, b Polmont, STI 2 CONT William FRATER, son, u/m 24, carpet weaver, b Glasgow, LKS 2 CONT Margaret BELL, daur, marr, 32, --------- b Glasgow 2 CONT Margaret BELL, gr-daur, 9, --------- b Glasgow 2 CONT 2 CONT 1.5.2004 Using IGI familysearch.org the name is spelt FRAITER 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT all details 2 CONT referred to as James of Gorbals 2 CONT 2 CONT Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names alrea 2 CONC dy got 2 CONT "While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater an 2 CONC d Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorde 2 CONC d as FRAITER. 2 CONT The children were: 2 CONT Christian (F) born 1771 2 CONT John (M) born 1773 2 CONT Henry (M) born 1776 2 CONT Jean (F) born 1778 2 CONT James (M) born 1781 and 2 CONT Janet (F) born 1786. 2 CONT 2 CONT Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside" 2 CONT 2 CONT Date taken from chart got from Christine. Her source is unknown. 2 CONT Went to Glasgow about 1817 and died there at the age of 74. In 1855 he was a carpet weaver 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . He has James born 20 M 1781 (M is unknown March or May probably) in Polmont. This is the so 2 CONC urce for Christine. 2 CONT 2 CONT Death certificate says: 2 CONT James Frater (Carpet Weaver) Male 74 years born in Polmont, Stirlingshire 38 years in Glasgow 2 CONC . Son of William Frater Quarryman (deceased). But notes written in to the left of the entry s 2 CONC tates that father is John. Wife is Margaret Miller deceased. Siblings listed as John 48, Marg 2 CONC aret 38, James 35 and WIlliam 33. Death March 22nd 1855 at 10:10 pm. He died at 17 Portugal S 2 CONC treet, Glasgow. Died of Bronchitis certified on March 23rd. Informant was William Frater son 2 CONC . Registered on March 24 1855. This is in the district of HUTCHESONTOWN Glasgow, Lanark docu 2 CONC ment 644/10 0275 2 CONT 2 CONT Buried in Calton Burial Ground, Glasgow.The burial ground was created by the Calton Incorpora 2 CONC tion of Weavers in 1786, there being many thousand weavers working and living in this part o 2 CONC f the city at that time, but the ground was not solely used by them. 2 CONT 2 CONT email re: James's Burial 2 CONT Your e-mail enquiry regarding Calton Burial Ground has been forwarded to us by 2 CONT Glasgow Cemeteries Dept. 2 CONT 2 CONT I can confirm that James Frater is buried in Calton, date of burial, 25th March 2 CONT 1855, Aged 74, 17 Portugal Street. 2 CONT 2 CONT There is a lair number, 168, however, there are no complete lair registers in 2 CONT existence. I am unable to confirm if any other family members are interred in 2 CONT that lair. 2 CONT 2 CONT I have checked the lair owners register and it seems that Thomas Hardie who was 2 CONT a mason from Calton purchased it on November 14th 1790. 2 CONT 2 CONT The Old Parish Records for Calton include burials 1792-1854, however, these are 2 CONT arranged by date, not by name. 2 CONT 2 CONT If you can arrange to view these films, you may discover other family members. 2 CONT 2 CONT Regards 2 CONT Christine McGilly 2 CONT Special Collections 2 CONT Mitchell Library 2 CONT Glasgow 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Notes on area of Portugal Street 2 CONT The Streets of St Mungo, Glasgow (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gordon.adams1/StreetNames.htm) 2 CONT LAURIESTON. This is a district on the south side of the river, which was feued from the trust 2 CONC ees of Hutchesons’ Hospital about the beginning of last century by James Laurie, son of Davi 2 CONC d Laurie, timber merchant, Jamaica Street. It was bounded on the west side by Bridge Street a 2 CONC nd Eglinton Street, on the east by Buchan Street and Portugal Street, on the south by Cavendi 2 CONC sh Street, extending north to Carlton Place, at the river side. Mr. Laurie had a penchant fo 2 CONC r high-sounding English names, and in laying off the lands gave us Bedford, Cavendish, Cumber 2 CONC land, Norfolk, Oxford, Portland, Salisbury, and Warwick Streets. These cognomens have remaine 2 CONC d, but Bridge Street, which he named Bloomsbury, has got a more suitable title. 2 CONT 2 CONT Taken from "Glimpses of Glasgow" 1894 by Andrew Aird 2 CONT PORTUGAL STREET consisted largely of dwelling houses for working people. Its chief building w 2 CONC as the Lancasterian School, which never was very popular. What is now known as Eglinton Stree 2 CONC t United Presbyterian Church had its conception in this institution. Its members met there fo 2 CONC r worship till the present church was built and ready for divine service. Its site was a gif 2 CONC t from Mr. Laurie, of Laurieston. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 8 Apr 2007 3 TIME 08:39:54 0 @I1972@ INDI 1 NAME Margaret /Miller/ 2 SURN Miller 2 GIVN Margaret 2 _MARNM Frater 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 12 Jan 1788 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 PAGE Lynda Bell email 3 NOTE birth year calculated from age at death. Data in email from Lynda BELL 4 CONT 4 CONT dob got from Maureen REED - unknown source to Maureen 3 DATA 4 DATE 25 Sep 2005 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1848 1 BURI 2 DATE 4 Mar 1848 2 PLAC Calton Burial Ground, Glasgow, lair 168 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 PAGE OPR 644/67 Page 473 3 NOTE OPR 644/67 Page 473 4 CONT 1848 March 4 - Mrs. Margaret MILLER or FLYTER, age 60 years, Asthma, Lair 168 old burial grou 4 CONC nd) 4 CONT This is the closest I could find. Does her age seem right to you? Flyter sounds similar eno 4 CONC ugh to Frater. I can see where the clerk might have gotten the name wrong. 4 CONT Lynda 3 DATA 4 DATE 25 Sep 2005 1 _UID 0CFD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE15574C 1 FAMS @F595@ 1 NOTE email from George Whitelaw 22.5.2005 2 CONT I have found on the Index 1841 census this family of Fraters living 2 CONT in the Gorbals Glasgow. 2 CONT James age 55 2 CONT Margaret age 50 2 CONT James age 20 2 CONT William age 18 2 CONT Alexander age 13 2 CONT 2 CONT email from Barbara Nelleson 27.5.2005 2 CONT Piece: SCT1841/644/ 2 Place: Glasgow-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 58 Civil Parish: Gorba 2 CONC ls Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 21 Page: 1 Address: Portugal Street Sur 2 CONC name First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks 2 CONT FRATER James M 55 Carpet Weaver Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER Margaret F 50 Outside Census County (1841) 2 CONT FRATER James M 20 Compositor Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER William M 18 Carpet Weaver Lanarkshire 2 CONT FRATER Alexander M 13 Calico Printer Lanarkshire 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . This gives death before 1851 2 CONT 2 CONT 20.5.2004 - 1851 census entry provided confirming that James was a widower at this time. Thi 2 CONC s confirms EC's findings that she died prior to 1851. 2 CONT 2 CONT 25.9.2005 email from Lynda Bell 2 CONT I think I found Margaret. 2 CONT OPR 644/67 Page 473 2 CONT 1848 March 4 - Mrs. Margaret MILLER or FLYTER, age 60 years, Asthma, Lair 168 old burial grou 2 CONC nd) 2 CONT This is the closest I could find. Does her age seem right to you? Flyter sounds similar eno 2 CONC ugh to Frater. I can see where the clerk might have gotten the name wrong. 2 CONT Lynda 2 CONT (This matches with dates and facts from James) 2 CONT 2 CONT 29 Sept 2005 2 CONT With age at death year of birth is now placed at 1788 IGI have 2 Margaret MILLERS born in Sti 2 CONC rlingshire (place where James was born) in that year 2 CONT Margaret MILLER christened 14 Sept 1798 Falkirk, Stirlingshre to John MILLER & Jean LIDDELL/L 2 CONC IDDLE in Batch C119709 which contains 25 MILLERS. 2 CONT Margaret MILLER christened 10 Feb 1798 Gargunnock, Stirlingshre to George MILLER & Margaret P 2 CONC ATERSON 2 CONT 2 CONT Other Margaret MILLER's christened within 2 year of 1788 in Stirlingshire include 2 CONT Margaret parent: John MILLER/Margaret AITKEN 11 Aug 1789 Falkirk 2 CONT also recorded birth 11 AUG 1789 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland, christened 16 AUG 178 2 CONC 9 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland 2 CONT Margaret parent: Robert MILLER/Elizabeth WATSON 05 MAR 1789 Airth, Stirling, Scotland (bi 2 CONC rth 28 FEB 1789) 2 CONT Margaret parent: James MILLER/Elizabeth MUIRHEAD 03 JAN 1790 Bothkennar, Stirling, Scotla 2 CONC nd 2 CONT Margaret parent: Robert MILLER/Mary McCULLOCH 24 JAN 1790 Gargunnock, Stirling, Scotland 2 CONT 2 CONT Could she be one of these? 1 CHAN 2 DATE 13 Jun 2007 3 TIME 15:50:05 0 @I1973@ INDI 1 NAME Jean /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Jean 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 10 May 1778 2 PLAC Polmont, Stirling 2 SOUR @S73@ 3 NOTE extract for dob 4 CONT FRAITER Jean F B 1778 10 May 1778 Polmont Janet Forgie John 487/00 0001 FR75 3 DATA 4 DATE 30 May 2005 1 CHR 2 DATE 10 May 1778 2 PLAC Polmont, Stirling, Scotland 2 SOUR @S64@ 3 NOTE Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source recor 4 CONC ds are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 4 CONT 4 CONT Source Information: 4 CONT Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: 4 CONT C114872 1729 - 1819 1041954, 1041955 Film 6903161 Film 3 DATA 4 DATE 23 Mar 2008 1 _UID 0EFD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE15596C 1 FAMC @F634@ 1 NOTE based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT all details 2 CONT 2 CONT Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names alrea 2 CONC dy got 2 CONT "While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater an 2 CONC d Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorde 2 CONC d as FRAITER. 2 CONT The children were: 2 CONT Christian (F) born 1771 2 CONT John (M) born 1773 2 CONT Henry (M) born 1776 2 CONT Jean (F) born 1778 2 CONT James (M) born 1781 and 2 CONT Janet (F) born 1786. 2 CONT Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside" 2 CONT 2 CONT 2 CONT Is this the marriage to William FRATER? 2 CONT 18 Jan 1823 FRAITER JEAN WILLIAM FRAITER/FR808 F POLMONT 487/00 0003 2 CONT 2 CONT There is a ScotlandsPeople marriage of William FRATER & Jean FRATER 2 CONT Jean does have a 1st cousin William Frater. Is this William's Jean? 2 CONT 1851 census Polmont 2 CONT Enum book 2 Page 16 Entry 9 & 10 2 CONT William FRATER 57 born Polmont, Stirling 2 CONT Jean FRATER 47 born Polmont, Stirling 1 CHAN 2 DATE 30 Mar 2008 3 TIME 23:44:21 0 @I1974@ INDI 1 NAME Janet /Frater/ 2 SURN Frater 2 GIVN Janet 1 SEX F 1 BIRT 2 DATE 1786 1 CHR 2 DATE 19 Feb 1786 2 PLAC Polmont, Stirling 2 SOUR @S73@ 3 NOTE FRAITER Janet F B 1786 19 Feb 1786 Polmont Janet Forgie John 487/00 0001 FR166 3 DATA 4 DATE 30 May 2005 1 _UID 10FD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE155B8C 1 FAMC @F634@ 1 NOTE based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT all details 2 CONT 2 CONT Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names alrea 2 CONC dy got 2 CONT "While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater an 2 CONC d Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorde 2 CONC d as FRAITER. 2 CONT The children were: 2 CONT Christian (F) born 1771 2 CONT John (M) born 1773 2 CONT Henry (M) born 1776 2 CONT Jean (F) born 1778 2 CONT James (M) born 1781 and 2 CONT Janet (F) born 1786. 2 CONT Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside" 1 CHAN 2 DATE 30 May 2005 3 TIME 18:58:32 0 @I1975@ INDI 1 NAME John /Fraiter/ 2 SURN Fraiter 2 GIVN John 1 SEX M 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT 1756 2 PLAC Polmont 1 DEAT 2 DATE 1777 2 PLAC Polmont, Scotland 2 SOUR @S4@ 3 PAGE from Maureen Burns 3 NOTE Pre 1855 Monumental Inscriptions for East Strilingshire & checked Polmont 4 CONT Lair 23 4 CONT 1797; John Fraiter & Jannet Forgie 4 CONT 4 CONT BMD Polmont Parish Register (email from Sandra Reid 1.2.2008) 4 CONT I cannot at this time say why the date on the gravestone is 1797 when the two Fraiter death 4 CONC s listed in the index are 1777 and 1787. 3 DATA 4 DATE 18 May 2004 1 _UID 12FD6D25074AD61197CB0080C8E7DE155DAC 1 FAMS @F634@ 1 FAMC @F1116@ 2 PEDI disproved 1 NOTE 1.5.2004 Using IGI familysearch.org the name is spelt FRAITER 2 CONT 2 CONT based on correspondence from Leicester Frater of NZ the following details were added 2 CONT all details 2 CONT 2 CONT Message from Karen Hemingway may contain a possible link. Certainly matches up in names alrea 2 CONC dy got 2 CONT "While I am still trying to find out about John and Helen, I did come across a John Frater an 2 CONC d Janet Forgie married in 1770 in Borrowstounness who went on to have 6 children but recorde 2 CONC d as FRAITER. 2 CONT The children were: 2 CONT Christian (F) born 1771 2 CONT John (M) born 1773 2 CONT Henry (M) born 1776 2 CONT Jean (F) born 1778 2 CONT James (M) born 1781 and 2 CONT Janet (F) born 1786. 2 CONT Janet may be the daughter of John Forgie and Christian Gourlie and born 1749 in Muiravonside" 2 CONT 2 CONT taken from Muiravonside Parish Marriages (1692 - 1875) 2 CONT 2 CONT 28 Aug 2003 2 CONT Received a letter from Conrad Frater with copy of tree produced by his father Edward C Frater 2 CONC . He has James married to Janet Fergus. 1 CHAN 2 DATE 31 Mar 2008 3 TIME 23:03:21 0 @I1976@ INDI 1 NAME Jannet /Forgie/ 2 SURN Forgie 2 GIVN Jann