gave child as Spinster. Child's Interment was signed by Fred Carpenter and child was buried with Frederick Charles (10681) which was also signed by Fred Charles and so must be related. Doc also says child is grandchild of owner. Owner is Fred as 10681 shows Fred as owner.
FreeBMD has Emma Jane married Qtr Jun 1890
District Pontypridd Vol 11a Pg 582
Possible spouse is
Henry Wilson or John Evans
inserted from Treorchy Cemetery Interment document 32238. This shows address as 36 Brynhyfryd Place, Treorchy. This is the same address as Fred at the same time. Looking at ages, the current presumption is that Charles Henry is son.
details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library
1901 census from Phil Clements
The 1901 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish - Res: 52 Scott Row - Piece 5102 - Folio 63 - Page 33 - Schedule 190
John C Watts Head M 32 Reservist Bedminster English
Minnie Watts Wife M 32 Dressmaker Own acc Glastonbury English
Katie Watts Daur 5 Treherbert English
Herbert J Watts Son 3 Treherbert English
Annie Watts Daur 2 Treherbert English
Ivor C Watts Son 5mos Treherbert English
John Carpenter Boarder W 65 Labourer in Coal Mine Worker E Harptree English
possible BMD
Births Jun 1869
Carpenter Minnie Wells 5c 565details from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index held at Treorchy Library
1901 census from Phil Clements
The 1901 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish - Res: 52 Scott Row - Piece 5102 - Folio 63 - Page 33 - Schedule 190
John C Watts Head M 32 Reservist Bedminster English
Minnie Watts Wife M 32 Dressmaker Own acc Glastonbury English
Katie Watts Daur 5 Treherbert English
Herbert J Watts Son 3 Treherbert English
Annie Watts Daur 2 Treherbert English
Ivor C Watts Son 5mos Treherbert English
John Carpenter Boarder W 65 Labourer in Coal Mine Worker E Harptree English
1901 census from Phil Clements
The 1901 Census - Ystradyfodwg Parish - Res: 52 Scott Row - Piece 5102 - Folio 63 - Page 33 - Schedule 190
John C Watts Head M 32 Reservist Bedminster English
Minnie Watts Wife M 32 Dressmaker Own acc Glastonbury English
Katie Watts Daur 5 Treherbert English
Herbert J Watts Son 3 Treherbert English
Annie Watts Daur 2 Treherbert English
Ivor C Watts Son 5mos Treherbert English
John Carpenter Boarder W 65 Labourer in Coal Mine Worker E Harptree English
Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.
Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos KilmersdonFrom Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.
1861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East HarptreeThis may be two people Anne & Jane where they both married Job Vranch.
The 1871 Census - Weston super Mare Parish - 12 Park Place - Piece 2459 - Folio 69 - Page 67 - Schedule 376
Musley B Saunders Head M 41 Curate of St John's Ireland
Aharia Saunders Wife M 44 Cape of Good Hope
Frances Smith Serv U 24 Cook Rockhampton, Dorset
Jane Carpenter Serv U 19 Housemaid East HarptreeJane being a Carpenter is current supposition based on this being Hubert Vranch nephew of Francis Carpenter
The 1881 Census - Chilcompton Parish - Res: Norton Down - Piece 2429 - Folio 124 - Page 17 Job Branch Head M 38 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Jane Branch Wife M 28 East Harptree Edwin Branch Son 14 Coal Miner Kilmersdon Hubert Branch Son 12 Midsomer Norton George Branch Son 10 Kilmersdon Mary Branch Daur 6 Buckland Rosina Branch Daur 3 Buckland Arthur Branch Son 1 Midsomer NortonJob Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.
1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Was there a twin with William Frederick V Vranch also born Q Dec 1874? Or is he related?
In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
If she is the daughter of Job and Jane then Albert Percy cannot be their son
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
If he is the son of Job and Jane then Elizabeth cannot be their daughter
1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
Job seems to have married Ann's younger sister Jane after Ann's death. I am sure this was illegal in the 19th century but if they didn't say anything or married in a parish where only one or neither of the parties were known then it would be done.
Notes from Peggy Goodger
Ernest Charles baptised 1 October 1865 at Kilmersdon Page 98 Entry 107 (buried on 19 Sep 1869 at kilmersdon, aged 4 years - parents abode Chilcompton).Edwin John baptised 12 Feb 1867 at kilmersdon. Page 102 Entry 135.
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I did notice however, the following burials - these may or may not be linked with this family. I include them just in case.
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Elizabeth Vranch buried 15 Dec 1880 aged 6 weeks . Parents' abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
Abert(sic)? Percy Vranch buried 17 sep 1895 aged 14 years. Abode Norton Down, Chilcompton.
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Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
There was also another couple Charles & Hester Carpenter who baptised at East Harptree Henry 23 Jan 1824 and Francis 30 Aug 1829.
I hope this is of some help to you. If I can help further please just shout!1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos KilmersdonFrom Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton1901 Census RG13/2333 Fo: 16 Pg: 9
Civil Parish: Chilcompton, Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Baptist, Rural District: Clutton, Village
Schedule 65 (no address on page)
Job Vranch Head married Age 58 Coal Hewer Miner working Charlton, Somerset
Jane Vranch wife married Age 47 East Harptree, Somerset
Ernest Vranch son single Age 15 Coal Miner working White Post, Somerset
William Vranch son single Age 12 White Post, Somerset
Walter Vranch son single Age 9 White Post, Somerset
email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in county1851 census from Phil Clements
The 1851 Census - Stowey Parish - Res: Knighton Sutton - Piece 1938 - Folio 145 - Page 2 - Schedule 7
Robert Lyde Head M 50 Farmer 136 acres Stowey
Elizabeth Lyde Wife M 40 Litton
William Lyde Son 12 Scholar at home Litton
Mary Jane Lyde Daur 2 Litton
John Lyde Brother M 62 Carpenter Litton
Ann Carpenter Servant 16 East Harptree1871 census from Phil Clements
The 1871 Census - Kilmersdon Parish - Res: Charlton Village - Piece 2436 - Folio 21 - Page 32 - Schedule 166
Job Vranch Head M 29 Coal Miner Kilmersdon
Ann Vranch Wife M 31 East Harptree
Edwin J Vranch Son 4 Kilmersdon
Herbert Vranch Son 2 Chilcompton
George Vranch Son 3mos Kilmersdon
Emily Vranch buried 23 Oct 1878 at Kilmersdon aged 7 months. Parents abode Buckland.
Was there a twin with William Frederick V Vranch also born Q Dec 1874? Or is he related?
In 1881 Census the family are in Norton Down, Chilcompton, and can be found under the suirname of BRANCH
Job aged 38 born Kilmersdon
Jane aged 28 born East Harptree
Edwin aged 14 born Kilmersdon
Hubert aged 12 born Midsomer Norton
George aged 10 born Kilmersdon
Mary aged 6 born Buckland
Rosina aged 3 born Buckland
Arthur aged 1 born Midsomer Norton
1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 30
72 Gwendoline Street
Jesse Carpenter, Head, 32, Coal miner, Somerset - Glastonbury, English speaker
Margaret Carpenter, Wife, 29, Glamorgan - Aberdare, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Son, 6, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Francis Carpenter, Son, 2, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
Edward Carpenter, Son, 1, Glamorgan - Treherbert, English & Welsh speaker
John Carpenter, Lodger, widower, 54, Coal Tipper, Somerset - East Harptree, English speaker
Frederick Carpenter, Lodger, 17, Coal Miner, Somerset - Bishop Sutton, English speaker1901 census
Ystradyfodwg District 8, Glamorgan
RG 13/5012 Page 5
Schedule 30 7 Ynyswen Terrace
Jesse CARPENTER Head M 42 Coal Hewer below ground Glastonbury, Somerset English
Margaret CARPENTER Wife M 39 - Aberdarem Glamorgan Billingual
John A CARPENTER Son S 15 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Edward S CARPENTER Son S 11 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Arthur L CARPENTER Son S 5 - Treherbert, Glamorgan English
Not convinced that Margaret is the daughter of this William. Possible Granddaughter? There are William's born in the right time and general area that could be her father and son of other William.