not found on the 1881 census. Had they already left for Australia by then?
census details from Mike Short emailed 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank) & Herbert William (Bert)1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank), & Herbert William (Bert), Sidney, Cyril, Walter& Maude. Occupation: Brassfounder. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Warehouse woman
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with wife; children Francis Paul (Frank) - Brassfounder fitter, Herbert William (Bert) - Gunmaker driller miller, Cyril - Brass chandelier maker, Walter, Hydraulic engineer turner, Maude, Gertrude, Stanley, Dorothy, Raymond & Hilda J. Francis William’s occupation: Brassfounder Fitter. Note: Sidney is not present on and has not been traced. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Papier Mache Maker
In the following year, 1861 Eliza appears on the 1861 census as 11 mths old living with her parents, George Bradley, aged 31 a Paper Maker born in Newbury, Berks, and her mother Emma, aged 25, and her older sister,Emma aged 5. The full address is given as 9, Eden Place, Guildford Street. (See 'Emma Short and the Shorts' p.3-4). Since this 1861 census was taken on April 27th Eliza should really be 1 year old.
On the 1871 census Eliza aged 11 is recorded as living at 21 Walsall Road with her parents, and her sisters Emma aged 15, and Clara aged 7 and her brother George aged 5.
not found on the 1881 census. Had they already left for Australia by then?
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (husband wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with husband; children Francis Paul (Frank) & Herbert William (Bert)1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with husband - Brassfounder; and children Francis Paul (Frank), & Herbert William (Bert), Sydney (or Sidney), Cyril, Walter& Maude. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Warehouse woman
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with husband - Brassfounder fitter; children Francis Paul (Frank) - Brassfounder fitter, Herbert William (Bert) - Gunmaker driller miller, Cyril - Brass chandelier maker, Walter, Hydraulic engineer turner, Maude, Gertrude, Stanley, Dorothy, Raymond & Hilda J. Note: Sydney (or Sidney) is not present on and has not been traced. Also present is sister Clara BRADLEY - Papier Mache Maker
Francis Paul (Frank) GREEN KNOWN AS HILL
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living 1 Mount Terrace, Cattell Road, Aston (father wrongly enumerated as James GREEN) with parents
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Brassfounder Fitter
Emigrated Australia
Quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL as did brother Stanley and, possibly, Cyril
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. not traced
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Brass Chandelier Maker
Emigrated Australia
Brothers Stanley and Francis Paul (Frank) quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL, thought that Cyril may have done also
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents. Occupation: Hydraulic Engineer Turner
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 19 Grove Terrace, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
Maureen's notes:
All Emma Green's family emigrated to Australia except possibly Bert Green & family. Frank & Stanley (& possibly Cyril) quarrelled with their father and therefore changed their surnames to Hill. I met Maud, Gertie & Stan at the house he was building in Slack's Creek, Queensland, Australia in 1965. I did not get much conversation with Maud & Gertie as Stan never stopped talking. He thought he knew everything. He wrote a letter to Granddad saying I was 'lily-livered' for not staying to live in Australia, so I wrote back and told him off.
I met Joan & family in Sydney in 1965 but they were about to move. I've lost their address. They seemed nice people.
==================================================================census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
Quarrelled with father and changed surname to HILL as did brother Francis Paul (Frank) and, possibly, Cyril
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1901 Cen. Living 142 Murdoch Road, Handsworth, Staffordshire with parents
Emigrated Australia
No further information