All Names in the MyForefathers database

Notes

William SHORT

Son of Hellen/Ellen SHORT by earlier relationship

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1841 Cen. Living Canal Street, Birmingham parish with mother, brother and mother’s parents

1851 Cen. Not traced - not rec. with mother and stepfather

1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with husband - iron caster; children by earlier relationship(s) William - Musician & John James - Iron Wire Drawer; children of second marriage Ellen, Eliza Ann, & Charles Thomas. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor

1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with mother and stepfather; brother, half- brother & half-sisters. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor. Note: rec. as m. but wife and children not present. Occupation: Musician (disability column torn away but William is blind)

1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with wife; children Thomas H - employed factory, William - employed forge, Rose Eliza, George F & Albert Edward. Their daughter, Elizabeth, is not present and is with brother John James and his wife, Amelia, in Plumstead, Kent. Note: William is recorded as blind & a musician.

1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Elizabeth DREW

Known as Betsy

email from Mike Short 7.9.2006
1841 Cen shown as Betsy aged 8, with parents, Alvington Gloucestershire with parents and sibling Eliza DREW b. 1831/2 Alvington.
1851 Cen shown as Elizabeth, 19 years, a house servant in Alvington

1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with husband; children Thomas H - employed factory, William - employed forge, Rose Eliza, George F & Albert Edward. Their daughter, Elizabeth, is not present and is with husband’s brother John James SHORT and his wife, Amelia, in Plumstead, Kent. Note: husband William is recorded as blind & a musician.

1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

1891 Cen. wife Elizabeth living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston - washerwoman, with children Rose, Albert - tube drawer, Charles, gas labourer, Alfred - brass fitter

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
After d. of William, 1891 Cen. wife Elizabeth living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston - washerwoman, with children Rose, Albert - tube drawer, Charles, gas labourer, Alfred - brass fitter.

Thomas H SHORT

email from Mike SHort 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. No trace of Thomas, his brother William or mother. Father, William SHORT, is with at his mother and stepfather’s house
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Thomas’s occupation: employed factory

William SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. No trace of William, his brother Thomas or mother. Father, William SHORT, is at mother and stepfather’s house
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents.

Rose Eliza SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Occupation: employed forge

1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother
No further trace

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Elizabeth SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen: with uncle John James SHORT and his wife Amelia in Plumstead, Kent

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Albert SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents.

1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Tube Drawer
1901 Not traced (is not the Albert Edward SHORT with wife Alice Mary HAYWARD - they m. 1889)

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Charles SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Gas Labourer. 1901 - not traced

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

John James SHORT

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Alfred SHORT

KF1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. living 19 Butler Street, Bordesley, Aston with widowed mother. Occupation: Brass Fitter
1901 Not traced

George S JENKINS

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Eliza Ann JONES

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. 5 Bowyer Street, Deritend & Bordesley, Birmingham with husband - iron caster; children by earlier relationship(s) William - Musician & John James - Iron Wire Drawer; children of second marriage Ellen, Eliza Ann, & Charles Thomas. Also present 2 lodgers inc 1 blind, and a visitor

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Jane JENKINS

1881 census
4 Thornton Blds, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3018/25 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Charles JONES Head M Male 60 Birmingham General Labourer
Ellen JONES Wife M Female 64 Birmingham

Amelia SHORT Dau In Law (Head) M Female 35 Birmingham Screw Worker
Charles SHORT Son Male 4 Woolwich Arsenal
Annie E. SHORT Dau Female 1 Birmingham

George S. JENKINS Son In Law (Head) M Male 31 Hay, Brecknock, Wales Labourer General
Eliza A. JENKINS Wife M Female 28 Aston, Warwick, England
Jane JENKINS Dau Female 1 Birmingham
Ellen LINES Lodger U Female 41 Birmingham Iron Bedstead Painter
William T. LINES Son Male 9 Birmingham Scholar

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Charlotte JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Nathaniel JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Francis H JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Oscar JENKINS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. 2 Bowyer Street, Bordesley, Aston, Birmingham with husband - general labourer;
children Ellen SHORT b.1876/7; Jane JENKINS b. 1879/80, Charlotte E JENKINS b. 1881/2, Nathaniel JENKINS b. 1883/4,Francis H JENKINS n. 1886/7 & Oscar JENKINS b. 1888/9

Charles DREW

email from Mike Short 7.9.2006
1841 Cen shown as Betsy aged 8, with parents, Alvington Gloucestershire with parents and sibling Eliza DREW b. 1831/2 Alvington.

Mary

email from Mike Short 7.9.2006
1841 Cen shown as Betsy aged 8, with parents, Alvington Gloucestershire with parents and sibling Eliza DREW b. 1831/2 Alvington.
1851 Cen shown as Elizabeth, 19 years, a house servant in Alvington

Eliza DREW

email from Mike Short 7.9.2006
1841 Cen shown as Betsy aged 8, with parents, Alvington Gloucestershire with parents and sibling Eliza DREW b. 1831/2 Alvington.

George Frederick SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living at 60 Dartmouth St, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, with parents. Occupation: employed forge

1891 Cen. Is a record of a Private George F SHORT at Chatham, Kent, District Royal Marines

KF 1881 census
4 Bedford Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 3017/113 Page 45
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
William SHORT Head M Male 45 Bham, Warwick, England Musician
Betsy SHORT Wife M Female 44 Alvington, Gloucester, England
Rose SHORT Daur U Female 17 Bham, Warwick, England Bedstead Painter (Brass)
Elizabeth SHORT Daur U Female 16 Bham, Warwick, England Warehouse Girl At Bedstead Factory
George F. SHORT Son Male 13 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Albert SHORT Son Male 12 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charles SHORT Son Male 10 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
John J. SHORT Son Male 8 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Alfred SHORT Son Male 5 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Maud SHORT Cousin Female 2 Bham, Warwick, England

Thomas SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1851 Cen. living at 12c Francis Street, Aston with parents

1861 Cen. Living 71 Princip Street, Birmingham St George with parents
m(1) SH3.11.1AS Mary, b. 1848 Birmingham

1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with wife Mary and their children, Louisa, James and Thomas. Occupation: Wire drawer

betw. 1877-80 moved back to B’ham

1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with second wife Caroline; children James & Thomas by first marriage; children Annie, Caroline, Minnie & Jane by second marriage. Occupation: Iron Wire Drawer

bef. 1888/9 moved to Ulverston, Cumberland and then to Manchester bef. 1891

1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with wife; children by second marriage, Caroline - occ. Weaver, Minnie, Jane, Samuel, Harry & John Charles. Occupation: Wire drawer. Gap of at least six years betw. b. of Samuel & Harry suggests more children who did not survive.

betw. 1891 and 1892 moved to Warrington

1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with wife; child from first m. Thomas - Moulders core maker, unmarried; children by second marriage Ann - domestic nurse, Jane - machinist shirts, Harry - Barber’s Lather Boy, Albert, Robert, Frank & Harold

Mary Emily GRUNDY

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Possibility only of her on 1850 at 160 Livery Street, Birmingham with Irish Grandparents John & Mary GRUNDY, Master Boot & Shoemakers

KF from BMD 30.4.2006 got these as possible deaths
Deaths Jun 1871 Short Mary Agnes 22 Hampstead 1a 471
Dec 1871 Short Mary 32 Woolwich 1d 624 (wrong age though - too old)
Mar 1873 SHORT Mary 19 Lambeth 1d 269 (wrong age though - too young)
June 1873 Short Mary Emily 28 Woolwich 1d 536 (wrong age but strong contender if b 1848 then 25)

Louisa SHORT

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Possibly Gen Domestic Servant at 16 Winson Green Road, Birmingham All Saints

James SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with father & stepmother

Thomas SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with father & stepmother
1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with father & stepmother. Occupation: Moulder’s Core maker. Unmarried

Thomas SHORT

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1851 Cen. living at 12c Francis Street, Aston with parents

1861 Cen. Living 71 Princip Street, Birmingham St George with parents
m(1) SH3.11.1AS Mary, b. 1848 Birmingham

1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with wife Mary and their children, Louisa, James and Thomas. Occupation: Wire drawer

betw. 1877-80 moved back to B’ham

1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with second wife Caroline; children James & Thomas by first marriage; children Annie, Caroline, Minnie & Jane by second marriage. Occupation: Iron Wire Drawer

bef. 1888/9 moved to Ulverston, Cumberland and then to Manchester bef. 1891

1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with wife; children by second marriage, Caroline - occ. Weaver, Minnie, Jane, Samuel, Harry & John Charles. Occupation: Wire drawer. Gap of at least six years betw. b. of Samuel & Harry suggests more children who did not survive.

betw. 1891 and 1892 moved to Warrington

1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with wife; child from first m. Thomas - Moulders core maker, unmarried; children by second marriage Ann - domestic nurse, Jane - machinist shirts, Harry - Barber’s Lather Boy, Albert, Robert, Frank & Harold

Louisa SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Possibly Gen Domestic Servant at 16 Winson Green Road, Birmingham All Saints

James SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with father & stepmother

Thomas SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living 30 Warwick Street, Woolwich, Kent with parents
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with father & stepmother
1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with father & stepmother. Occupation: Moulder’s Core maker. Unmarried

Annie SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with parents
Not traced further

Caroline SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents. Occupation: Weaver
1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents. Occupation: Domestic Nurse

Jane SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents
1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents. Occupation: Machinist, shirts

Samuel SHORT

email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents

Harry SHORT

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1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents
1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents. Occupation Barber’s Lather Boy

John Charles SHORT

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1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents
Note: not with parents on 1901 Cen.

Albert SHORT

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1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents.

Robert SHORT

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1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents.

Frank SHORT

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1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents.

Harold SHORT

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1901 Cen. At 122 Battersby Road, Warrington with parents

Minnie SHORT

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1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents.
1901 Cen. 30 Dickinson Street, Warrington, Lancashire with husband & daughter Ethel MILNER b. 1900 Warrington, Lancs

Sarah SHORT

email Mike SHort 8.4.2006
1851 Cen. living at 12c Francis Street, Aston with parents

1861 Cen. Living 71 Princip Street, Birmingham St George with parents

m. Mar Q 1869 Birmingham, SH3.11.3S Benjamin WILLIAMS b 1849/50 Birmingham
1871 Cen. Living Abbott Road, Woolwich St Mary, Essex with husband; children Louisa J & Susan C. Benjamin’s occupation: wire drawer

1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with husband; children Louisa J, Susan C, Thomas, Alice, Samuel, Albert & Benjamin. Husband’s occupation: wire drawer

1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with husband; children Louisa J - Warehouse Girl, Thomas - Iron Corrugator, Alice - Warehouse Girl, Samuel - Machinist, Albert, Benjamin, Ada, Leah, Edward & Rose

1901 Cen. Living at 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with husband; children Samuel - ….Labourer with his wife Ellen & their daughter Ade E WILLIAMS; children Benjamin - ….Metal Worker, Leah - Screw Worker & Edward - Errand boy. Note that children Ada and Rose are not present and may have died.

Louisa J WILLIAMS

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1871 Cen. Living Abbott Road, Woolwich St Mary, Essex with parents1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents. Occupation - Warehouse Girl

Susannah Caroline WILLIAMS

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1871 Cen. Living Abbott Road, Woolwich St Mary, Essex with parents
1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents

Thomas WILLIAMS

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1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents. Occupation - Iron Corrugator

Alice WILLIAMS

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1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents. Occupation - Warehouse Girl

Albert WILLIAMS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.

Benjamin WILLIAMS

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1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.
1901 Cen. Living at 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with parents. Occupation: Metal Worker

Ada WILLIAMS

KF 30.4.2006 only possible BMD death as must have been born bet. 1881 & 1891
Deaths Dec 1892 Williams Ada 9 Birmingham 6d 5

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1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.
1901 Cen. No trace

Leah WILLIAMS

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1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.
1901 Cen. Living at 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with parents. Occupation: Screw Worker

Edward WILLIAMS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.
1901 Cen. Living at 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with parents. Occupation: Errand Boy

Rose WILLIAMS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents.
1901 Cen. Living at 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with parents

Samuel WILLIAMS

email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents. Occupation - Machinist
Bef. 1901 m. SH4.11.3.5S Ellen b. 1879/80 Birmingham1901 Cen. At parents home 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with wife and daughter Ada Eileen WILLIAMS b. 1900 (aged 8 months at Cen.), Smethwick, Staffordshire - b. reg Sep 1900 Kings Norton

Harry Joseph SHORT

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1871 Cen. Living Front House, Allesley Street with parents

KF 1881 census
89 Clifton Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3043/81 Page 10
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alfred SHORT Head M Male 35 B'Ham, Warwick, England Tinner
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 34 Gloucester, Gloucester, England
Harry SHORT Son Male 12 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Frank SHORT Son Male 10 B'Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ada SHORT Daur Female 8 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Lillian SHORT Daur Female 6 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Clara SHORT Daur Female 3 Aston, Warwick, England
Agnes SHORT Daur Female 1 Aston, Warwick, England

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1891 Cen. Living Upper Sutton St, Aston Manor with parents. Occupation: Tinner
1901 Cen. living 200 Clifton Road, Aston Manor, Birmingham with wife; children Harry Lesley & Frank b. 1898/9 Aston
Note: in 1901 at 204 Clifton Road there are a family of PARSONS - Joseph & Lucy and children
Children: Harry Leslie SHORT b. 1894/5 Aston; Frank SHORT b. 1898/9 Aston, d. aged 18; SH6.1A.3.1.1.3 Dora SHORT. Dora’s birthdate has been given to me as 1899 but no trace on 1901 census and poss. b. later. She m. an unknown newsagent, no children, d. 1981

Harry Leslie SHORT m(1) Ida b. 1896 who d. cancer. They had one child Daphne SHORT b. 1920 who died young of cancer. Harry Leslie SHORT m(2) Mary b. c. 1894

Frank SHORT

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Dora SHORT

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Dora’s birthdate has been given to me as 1899 but no trace on 1901 census and poss. b. later. She m. an unknown newsagent, no children, d. 1981