Blacksmith of Yalding
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1871 Cen. living at 45 Sheep St in Aston, Birmingham with first wife ; children John Henry, William, Alice, Emma & Lizzie. John’s occupation: Iron CasterKF 1881 census
45 Sheep St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John SHORT Head M Male 40 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Foundriesman
John SHORT Son U Male 18 Bham, Warwick, England Caster
William SHORT Son U Male 16 Birmingham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 30 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housewife
Alice SHORT Daughter U Female 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Help
Emma SHORT Daughter U Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Servant
Lizzie SHORT Daughter U Female 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ellen SHORT Daughter U Female 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charlotte SHORT Daughter U Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Agnes F. SHORT Daughter U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England1891 Cen. Living with Husband’s mother, Harriet,at Huckster's Shop (near Swan Hotel), Washwood Heath, Saltley, Birmingham; with husband, children Fanny Harriet & Henry. Husband’s occupation: Railway carriage builder
1901 Cen. living Stadefield Lane, Aston, Warwickshire with husband - coach builder; children Fanny Harriet WINDRIDGE b. 1877/8 Birmingham, SH5.1A.8A.3.2 Henry WINDRIDGE b. 1889 Birmingham & Emma WINDRIDGE b. 1891 Birmingham
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1871 Cen. living at 45 Sheep St in Aston, Birmingham with first wife ; children John Henry, William, Alice, Emma & Lizzie. John’s occupation: Iron CasterKF 1881 census
45 Sheep St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 2990/116 Page 30
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John SHORT Head M Male 40 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Foundriesman
John SHORT Son U Male 18 Bham, Warwick, England Caster
William SHORT Son U Male 16 Birmingham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 30 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housewife
Alice SHORT Daughter U Female 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Help
Emma SHORT Daughter U Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Servant
Lizzie SHORT Daughter U Female 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ellen SHORT Daughter U Female 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charlotte SHORT Daughter U Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Agnes F. SHORT Daughter U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England1891 Cen. boarding at 166 Great Francis Street, Aston, Birmingham. Occupation: Enameller.
1901 Cen. living 'Three Horseshoes Beer House' 92 Irving Street, St Thomas, Birmingham with husband - Brass Primer (and, presumably, beer house keeper); their children Lily Emma GILBERT b. 1894/5 Birmingham, Charles Henry GILBERT b. 1896 Birmingham & SH5.1A.8A.5.3 Nellie GILBERT b. 1898/9 Birmingham
1881 Cen. 45 Sheep St in Aston, Birmingham. Living with his second wife: children by first marriage, John Henry, William, Alice, Emma, Lizzie, Ellen & Charlotte; and daughter Agnes Florence by second marriage. Daughter Maud by second marriage is not present and has been found at the home of SH3.9.1 William SHORT.
KF 1881 census
45 Sheep St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 2990/116 Page 30
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John SHORT Head M Male 40 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Foundriesman
John SHORT Son U Male 18 Bham, Warwick, England Caster
William SHORT Son U Male 16 Birmingham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 30 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housewife
Alice SHORT Daughter U Female 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Help
Emma SHORT Daughter U Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Servant
Lizzie SHORT Daughter U Female 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ellen SHORT Daughter U Female 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charlotte SHORT Daughter U Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Agnes F. SHORT Daughter U Female 1 Birmingham, Warwick, England1891 Cen. Living 'Red Lion' Public House, 199 High Street, Aston, Birmingham. Occupation: Barmaid.
1901 Cen. living 14 Godwin Street, Aston, Birmingham with husband - glass sign maker; their children Minnie Gertrude GOFF b. 1895 Birmingham, Nellie Florence GOFF b. 1898 Birmingham & Hilda Jane GOFF b. 1899 Birmingham
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1871 Cen. living at 45 Sheep St in Aston, Birmingham with first wife ; children John Henry, William, Alice, Emma & Lizzie. John’s occupation: Iron CasterKF 1881 census
45 Sheep St, Birmingham, Warwick, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 2990/116 Page 30
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John SHORT Head M Male 40 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Foundriesman
John SHORT Son U Male 18 Bham, Warwick, England Caster
William SHORT Son U Male 16 Birmingham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 30 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housewife
Alice SHORT Daughter U Female 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Help
Emma SHORT Daughter U Female 14 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Servant
Lizzie SHORT Daughter U Female 12 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ellen SHORT Daughter U Female 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Charlotte SHORT Daughter U Female 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
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1891 Cen. boarding at 166 Great Francis Street, Aston, Birmingham. Occupation: Enameller.
1901 Cen. living 'Three Horseshoes Beer House' 92 Irving Street, St Thomas, Birmingham with husband - Brass Primer (and, presumably, beer house keeper); their children
Lily Emma GILBERT b. 1894/5 Birmingham
Charles Henry GILBERT b. 1896 Birmingham
Nellie GILBERT b. 1898/9 Birmingham
1891 Cen. At 60 ?Cluster? Road, Handsworth (St John), Staffordshire with second wife; child by first marriage, William - aged 28, Occ: Carter; children by second marriage, Maud, Agnes Florence shown as ‘Florence’, Bertie George, Elsie Gertrude May, Daisy May, Ralph Victor & Violet Beatrice. John’s occupation: Retired Iron Founder
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1901 Cen. Living 68 Carlisle Street, Rotton Park, (St Cuthberts) Birmingham with parents. Occupation: JewellerA photograph of Ralph Victor SHORT is on his own family page
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1881 Cen. Living at 4 Edith Rd., Winson Green Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living at 63 Cross Street, Bradford, Christchurch, Manchester with parents.
1901 Cen. 30 Dickinson Street, Warrington, Lancashire with husband & daughter Ethel MILNER b. 1900 Warrington, Lancs
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1881 Cen. Living, Back 18 Cuthbert Road, Birmingham with parents
1891 Cen. Living 118 Winson Street, Rotton Park, Birmingham St Cuthberts with parents. Occupation - Machinist
Bef. 1901 m. SH4.11.3.5S Ellen b. 1879/80 Birmingham 1901 Cen. At parents home 146 Waterloo Road, Smethwick, Worcestershire with wife and daughter Ada Eileen WILLIAMS b. 1900 (aged 8 months at Cen.), Smethwick, Staffordshire - b. reg Sep 1900 Kings Norton
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1871 Cen. Living Front House, Allesley Street with parentsKF 1881 census
89 Clifton Rd, Aston, Warwick, England
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Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alfred SHORT Head M Male 35 B'Ham, Warwick, England Tinner
Agnes SHORT Wife M Female 34 Gloucester, Gloucester, England
Harry SHORT Son Male 12 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Frank SHORT Son Male 10 B'Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
Ada SHORT Daur Female 8 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Lillian SHORT Daur Female 6 Aston, Warwick, England Scholar
Clara SHORT Daur Female 3 Aston, Warwick, England
Agnes SHORT Daur Female 1 Aston, Warwick, Englandemail from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1891 Cen. Living Upper Sutton St, Aston Manor with parents. Occupation: Tinner
1901 Cen. living 200 Clifton Road, Aston Manor, Birmingham with wife; children Harry Lesley & Frank b. 1898/9 Aston
Note: in 1901 at 204 Clifton Road there are a family of PARSONS - Joseph & Lucy and children
Children: Harry Leslie SHORT b. 1894/5 Aston; Frank SHORT b. 1898/9 Aston, d. aged 18; SH6.1A.3.1.1.3 Dora SHORT. Dora’s birthdate has been given to me as 1899 but no trace on 1901 census and poss. b. later. She m. an unknown newsagent, no children, d. 1981Harry Leslie SHORT m(1) Ida b. 1896 who d. cancer. They had one child Daphne SHORT b. 1920 who died young of cancer. Harry Leslie SHORT m(2) Mary b. c. 1894
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Dora’s birthdate has been given to me as 1899 but no trace on 1901 census and poss. b. later. She m. an unknown newsagent, no children, d. 1981