1891 census
National School, Grendon, Aylesbury, Buck
RG12/1144 Pg 14
Thomas Frater Head M M 52 Schoolmaster Lambeth, Surrey
Caroline Frater Wife M F 59 Leigton Buzzard, Beds
Agnes I/J Frater Daur U F 27 Schoolmistress Grendon, Bucks
Sarah Holt Boarder U F 17 Pupil Woodham, Bucks1881 census
Road Through Village The School House
Grendon Underwood, Buckingham, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 1471/106 Page 3
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas FRATER Head M Male 42 London, Surrey, England Schoolmaster
Caroline FRATER Wife M Female 49 Leighton, Bedford, England Schoolmistress
Agnes J. FRATER Dau U Female 17 Grendon, Buckingham, England Pupil Teacher
census details
1861 Cen. Living 3 Williams Buildings, 131 Northumberland Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham with parents1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with parents
KF's 1881 census
56 Langdon St, Ecclesall Bierlow, York, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 4638/94 Page 8
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
William SHORT M Male 49 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Founder
Jane SHORT M Female 48 Kempsey, Worcester, England
John E. SHORT U Male 20 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Caster
Mary A.M. SHORT U Female 11 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
William H. SHORT Male 9 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar1891 Cen. 41 Rufford Road, Ecclehall Bierlow, Sheffield, former West Riding of Yorkshire with wife; children Albert Edward & Sydney. Occupation: Malleable Iron Caster
betw 189- & 1900 lived Meersbrook, Derbyshire
1901 Cen. 114 Valley Road, Norton, Derbyshire with wife;
children
Albert Edward SHORT b. 1889/90 Norton, Derbyshire;
Sydney SHORT b. 1890/1 Sheffield, former West Riding of Yorkshire;
Harry SHORT b. 1894/5 Meerbrook, Derbyshire;
Herbert SHORT b. 1900/1 Meerbrook, Derbyshire
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with wife Mary Ann; children James Thomas - mechanic, John Edward, Martha Elizabeth, Ellen Elizabeth & Mary Ann Maria. William’s occupation: Iron Founder
1881 Cen. General Domestic Servant living 108 Whitwam Street, Nether Hallam, Sheffield
1891 Cen. Living 49 Harrington Street, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield with husband - Club Porter; children Julia H & Beatrice H. Child Lily SHORT with Martha Elizabeth’s parents
1901 Cen: living 56 Chesterfield Road, Norton, Derbyshire with husband - Gentleman’s Club Waiter; children
Lily Julia H - General Domestic Servant,
Beatrice H,
George E,
Alice M,
Albert E
HoraceKF 1881 census
108 Whitham Rd, Nether Hallam, York, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 4627/76 Page 1
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary BENTLEY Head W Female 73 West Mulling, Kent, England Annuitant
Emily BENTLEY Daur U Female 34 Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Elizabeth FENTIMAN Sister U Female 75 West Mulling, Kent, England Annuitant
Martha SHORT Serv U Female 18 Birmingham, Warwick, England General Servant (Dom)
email Mike Short 8.4.2006
1861 Cen. Living 3 Williams Buildings, 131 Northumberland Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham with parents1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street with parents. Occupation: Mechanic
m. 1876 Sheffield Annie POTTS b. 1857 London/Middlesex1881 Cen. living 68 Broadfield Park Road, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield, former West Riding of Yorkshire with wife and children Annie Mary & William James. Occupation Malleable Iron Caster
1891 Cen. Living 11 Hope Steet, Lockwood, Huddersfield, West Riding of Yorkshire with wife and children, Annie Mary, William James, Ernest & Ellen
1901 Cen. Living 6 Church Street, Elland, West Riding of Yorkshire with children Annie Mary - telephone operator, Ernest - boot finisher, & Ellen. Note: James’s wife Annie is not present nor is his son William James and have not yet been traced on 1901 Cen.
Children: Annie Mary SHORT b. 1877/78 Sheffield, Yorkshire
William James SHORT b. 1879/80 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Ernest SHORT b. 1885/6 Huddersfield, Yorkshire
Ellen SHORT b. Mar 1890 Huddersfield, Yorkshire
census details from Mike Short 8.4.2006
1871 Cen. Living 169 Francis Street, Birmingham with parents1881 Cen. Living 56 Langdon Street, Ecclehall Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire with father and stepmother
KF's 1881 census
56 Langdon St, Ecclesall Bierlow, York, England
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 4638/94 Page 8
Name Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation
William SHORT M Male 49 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Founder
Jane SHORT M Female 48 Kempsey, Worcester, England
John E. SHORT U Male 20 B Ham, Warwick, England Malleable Iron Caster
Mary A.M. SHORT U Female 11 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
William H. SHORT Male 9 B Ham, Warwick, England Scholar
1891 Cen. Living 96 Albert Road, Heeley, Nether Hallam, Sheffield with father and stemother .1901 Cen. Living 20 Chantry Road, Norton, Derbyshire with husband - Highway Labourer; children
Ann HODGE b. 1892/3 Norton, Derbyshire;
William HODGE b. 1894/5 Norton, Derbyshire;
Harry HODGE b. 1898/9 Norton, Derbyshire;
Elsie HODGE b. 1900 Norton, Derbyshire (6 months at Cen.)
1891 Cen. living 291 Boldmere Road with husband - merchant’s Clerk and Children Henry Lowe HART & James Dempster HART.
1901 Cen. living 339 Stratford Road, Yardley with husband - Tobacconist working on own account from home and children
Henry Lowe HART b. 1885 Aston, Birmingham
James Dempster HART b. 1887 Aston, BirminghamFamily said to have moved to Devon
1871 Cen. . Living Back of 174 Great Lister Street, Duddeston & Nechells, Aston, Birmingham, with widowed father
KF's 1881 census details
Mount Pleasant, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3048/93 Page 12
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James D. SHORT Head M Male 43 Aston, Warwick, England Iron Founder
Fanney E. SHORT Wife M Female 26 Bham, Warwick, England
Charlotte L. SHORT Daughter Female 22 Bham, Warwick, England
James W. SHORT Son Male 20 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Mary A. SHORT Daughter Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England Pupil Teacher
Albert SHORT Son Male 3 Stechford, Warwick, England
Florrie SHORT Daughter Female 2 Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Earnest D. SHORT Son Male 3 m Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Jennie NICHOLAS Visitor Female 21 Pershore, Worcester, England1891 Cen. living 291 Boldmere Road with husband - merchant’s Clerk and Children Henry Lowe HART & James Dempster HART.
1901 Cen. living 339 Stratford Road, Yardley with husband - Tobacconist working on own account from home and children
Henry Lowe HART b. 1885 Aston, Birmingham
James Dempster HART b. 1887 Aston, BirminghamFamily said to have moved to Devon
On the 1901 Cen. there are GIRARDAUs living in Sparkbrook, Birmingham and there are GIRARDAUs b. in Solihull in the 1890s and m. in Birmingham just after 1900. Adrien Emile GIRARDAU has not yet been found on the 1901 Cen.
KF's 1881 census details
Mount Pleasant, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3048/93 Page 12
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James D. SHORT Head M Male 43 Aston, Warwick, England Iron Founder
Fanney E. SHORT Wife M Female 26 Bham, Warwick, England
Charlotte L. SHORT Daughter Female 22 Bham, Warwick, England
James W. SHORT Son Male 20 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Mary A. SHORT Daughter Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England Pupil Teacher
Albert SHORT Son Male 3 Stechford, Warwick, England
Florrie SHORT Daughter Female 2 Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Earnest D. SHORT Son Male 3 m Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Jennie NICHOLAS Visitor Female 21 Pershore, Worcester, England1891 Cen. Living 366 New John St, St Georges parish, Birmingham with second wife; children of first wife Charlotte Louisa & James William - caster; children of second wife Albert, Fanny Florence, Ernest, Percival, Alfred Leonard & Ethel; also two domestic servants. James Dempster’s occupation: Licensed Victualler public house
1901 Cen. Living Aston Tavern, 10 Aston Road, Aston Manor with wife; child by first wife Charlotte Louisa - barmaid; children by second marriage Albert - musician, Fanny Florence - barmaid, Ernest Dempster - Clerk ?Brewery?, Percival - railway clerk, Ethel, Harold, Victor James & Howard; also present servant-nursemaid aged 12
note from Mike Short 8.4.2006
A descendant reports that Fanny Florence was an excellent musician and had a high level qualification in music, possibly a degree - if this is true, a huge achievement for a woman in 1900.
Fanny Florence and her husband understood to have emigrated to Canada around or before 1910
KF's 1881 census details
Mount Pleasant, Aston, Warwick, England
PRO Ref RG11 Piece/Folio 3048/93 Page 12
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James D. SHORT Head M Male 43 Aston, Warwick, England Iron Founder
Fanney E. SHORT Wife M Female 26 Bham, Warwick, England
Charlotte L. SHORT Daughter Female 22 Bham, Warwick, England
James W. SHORT Son Male 20 Bham, Warwick, England Iron Caster
Mary A. SHORT Daughter Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England Pupil Teacher
Albert SHORT Son Male 3 Stechford, Warwick, England
Florrie SHORT Daughter Female 2 Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Earnest D. SHORT Son Male 3 m Washwood Heath, Warwick, England
Jennie NICHOLAS Visitor Female 21 Pershore, Worcester, England1891 Cen. Living 366 New John St, St Georges parish, Birmingham with second wife; children of first wife Charlotte Louisa & James William - caster; children of second wife Albert, Fanny Florence, Ernest, Percival, Alfred Leonard & Ethel; also two domestic servants. James Dempster’s occupation: Licensed Victualler public house
1901 Cen. Living Aston Tavern, 10 Aston Road, Aston Manor with wife; child by first wife Charlotte Louisa - barmaid; children by second marriage Albert - musician, Fanny Florence - barmaid, Ernest Dempster - Clerk ?Brewery?, Percival - railway clerk, Ethel, Harold, Victor James & Howard; also present servant-nursemaid aged 12
By all accounts, Ernest seems to have been ‘somewhat a beau’ in Sutton Coldfield. He claimed to have been an apprentice jockey with Captain Elsey but there must be some doubt here. Captain Elsey was decorated with the Military Cross in WW1 and after the war he assisted his father William Elsey with horse training, only becoming a trainer in his own right in 1911. Even by 1900, at the age of 19, Ernest would have been considered too old to start as an apprentice. (Captain Elsey trained large number of winners and trained some of the King’s horses. He had major successes in the 1000 Guineas and Oaks in 1949, The Oaks in 1952, 2000 Guineas in 1953, Champion Trainer and 1000 Guineas in 1956 and the St Leger in 1959 before retiring in 1960). Ernest was a heavy gambler and seems to have liked the horses, apparently he was a bookmaker’s clerk at some time, and the apprentice jockey tale may have been a tall story. Ernest became a publican and either owned, or ran, the ‘Bull’s Head’ at Tame Bridge and ‘The Swan’ at Washwood Heath. His favourite ‘tipple’ was whisky, which he seems to have drunk plenty of, and he had gout in later life. He was said to have been an extremely generous man.
email from Mike Short 8.4.2006
Said to have been one of 9 girls and 1 boy but no Cen match found. May have been child of Charles Bishop & Emily of St Peter, Worcs. but m. cert needs to be obtained by interested researchers.