email from Greg McKie 20.3.2007
In 1901 Ann Steel was looking after William and Thomas. Andrew and John had been farmed out to other relations. Andrew was a ‘chauffeur’, William an ‘artist’ Tom a ‘farmer’ whilst John was a ‘gardener’. John died of ‘ulcers’.
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonRegister of Birth details
Frater James B 1878 Sept Islington 1b 326b
James William Oliver (Jim) FRATER
email from Lucy Marian
JWO left Mary and their 3 children
email from Sylvia Bradley
taken from Sarah's death recordemail from Greg McKie 20.3.2007
John (snr) was an ‘agricultural labourer’.
John (jnr) was a ‘blacksmith’ (both are comments about the same person KF)
email from Sylvia BRADLEY
taken from death index record of daughter Sarah FRATER (nee MANSON)email from Greg McKie 20.3.2007
Sarah (snr) was a ‘servant’ working at Dalrymple in 1841
email from Philip FRATER
On William Oliver's son Ronald Leonard Frater birth cert. William's occupation was second hand wardrobe dealer.
William O was a very colourful man and quite a gambler. At one time he had a flourist shop but gambled it away.
WIlliam & Nellie had 9 children and Philip confirmed 4 of them Gladys, Maisie, Fred & Sid as well as his own father Ronald.Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
document from Sheila Saunders shows that William was known as Tom
Notes from KF
A William Frater has been found in:
Post Office London County Suburbs Directory, 1908. [Part 1: Street, Commercial, & Trades Directories]
Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park (N), [Islington] Fonthill Road, Seven Sisters Road to Stroud Green Road
2. Frater, Wm House decorator
Also on page 471 at 2 Wells Terrace, Finsbury Park, LondonAccording to the 1881 census there is only one William FRATER born about 1874 and he is this one
1881 Census
Dwelling: 94 Isledon Rd
Census Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341056 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0259 Folio 15 Page 24 Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Oliver FRATER M 30 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Head Occ: Painter (House)
Ellen FRATER M 28 F South Hornsey, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife
Ellen FRATER 11 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau
William FRATER U 6 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
George FRATER U 4 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
James FRATER 3 M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son
Oliver FRATER 3 m M Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son1891 census
Islington South West District 65 London
RG12/163 Page 55
Schedule 303 7 Hope Street
Oliver FRATER Head M 39 Painter *, London
Ellen FRATER Wife M 37 - Stomford Hill, London
William FRATER Son S 16 * Islington, London
George FRATER Son S 14 Scholar Islington, London
James A FRATER Son S 12 Scholar Islington, London
* (should be Oliver) FRATER Son S 10 Scholar Islington, London
Leonard FRATER Son S 6 Scholar Islington, London
Robert FRATER Son S 4 - Islington, London
Edward FRATER Son S 1 - Islington, London
Ellen FRATER Daur S 21 Laundress Wash Islington, London
Elizabeth FRATER Daur S 9 - Islington, LondonGiven the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in Islington
Notes from KF
Given the birth year of William Oliver I have looked up my 1901 indexes. I have only one William FRATER born around 1896 in the 1901 census. This is a transcript from the copy:
57 Eden Grove Islington (within walking distance of other ancestors of KF's FRATER family branch)
District of St. James
William FRATER age 26 House Painter Born in Islington (est. birth year 1875)
Ada FRATER age 25 wife Born in Islington
William FRATER age 4 son Born in Islington
Ada FRATER age 2 daughter Born in IslingtonSurname taken from Free BMD marriage pages. Only 1 William & Ada married in Islington in this time frame.