About 1854 Brought wife and family by sea to Cardiff from Glasgow on their way
to Cwmsaerbren and Tylacoch Farm. Agnes Barclay (wife) died a few years after reaching
the Rhondda. Traded as a Butcher in the Rhondda. Known to be at this
address in 1905.
Was a Butcher in WalesGeorge is listed inthe following Business Directories as a Butcher
1875 Warralls Directory of South Wales - George GALLOWAY, Treherbert (as is his son-in-law Francis)
1876 Mercer & Crocker's - George GALLOWAY, butcher, Tynewydd, Treherbert
1878 W E Owen & Co - George GALLOWAY, butcher, Tynewydd, Treherbert
1994 Kelly's - George GALLOWAY, butcher, 16 Dunraven StreetCENSUS DETAILS
1841 Census Place Easter Balgedie
Name Sex Age Occupation Born in County Page
George Galloway M 25 Agricultural Labourer Yes 11
Agnes Galloway F 25 No 11
Stewart Galloway M 2 Yes 11
Keith Galloway M? 1 Yes 11
Janet Galloway F 3 months Yes 111851 Census Orwell
George Galloway Head Married 35 Ag Lab Kinross Portmoak
Agnes Galloway Wife Married 37 Perthshire, Abernathy
Janet Galloway Daur U 10 Scholar Kinross, Portmoak
Helen Galloway Daur U 8 Scholar Kinross, Portmoak
Mary Galloway Daur U 7 Scholar Kinross, Portmoak
Archibald Galloway Son U 5 Scholar Kinross, Orwell
George Galloway Son U 3 Scholar Kinross, Orwell
John Galloway Son U 2 Scholar Kinross, Orwell
Agnes Galloway Daur U 1MTH Kinross, Orwell4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
RG10/5383
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
Part of Middle Hamlet. From Dunraven Inn to top of valley i.e. Blaencwm, BlaenRhondda, Bryn Windham & Dunraven Row
Schedule 6: Dunraven Row
George Galloway Head Marr 58 Butcher Scotland
Elizabeth Galloway Wife Marr 38 Scotland
David Galloway Son UMarr 16 Haulier at Colliery Scotland [prob born Henderson 1861 not in familyu in Wales - NLC]
Steward Galloway Son UMarr 6 Scholar Glamorgan, Glynneath
Margaret Galloway Daur UMarr 4 Glamorgan Britonferry
Hellen Galloway Daur Umarr 1 Glamorgan, Treherbert1881 Census
Dwelling: 16 Butcher Shop Dunraven Street Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 87 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GALLOWAY M 70 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth GALLOWAY M 50 F Scotland Rel: Wife Stuart GALLOWAY U 16 M Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Collier Margaret GALLOWAY 14 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ellen GALLOWAY 11 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Francis GALLOWAY 8 M Glamorgan, Wales1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 38
16 Dunraven Street
George Galloway, Head, 77, Retired Butcher, Scotland, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 53, Scotland, English speaker
Frank Galloway, Son, 18, Collier, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speakerIn 1861, Cwmsaerbren was separated from the ten households at Tyla Coch by just four households, one at Ynyswen and three at Nanteris. Emailed from request to lookup details of Tylacoch Farm where George was believed to be Bailiff
"You mention that George GALLOWAY was at Tyla Coch in 1854. That year Ann MORGAN owned Tylacoch Farm."The birthdate and parentage of George is based on data provided by Linda. This is from her research and copies of the 1841 & 1851 census data. The 1851 census data is of "Orwell" whilst the 1841 data is from the Parish of Portmoak
The St John the Baptist register of marriage shows George Galloway married on 14.1.1861 to Elizabeth Gordon had a father "Stewart" and a widower. Elizabeth is shown as a Widow and was living in Scotland at the time of the marriage. So George was still in contact in Scotland and both George & Elizabeth signed the marriage certificate, so we can presume he could read and write and may have "sent" for another wife. Since this happened with two of his own daughters (Agnes going to Australia to replace Rachel upon her death) Elizabeth may have been related to Agnes - It is possible.
Evon Williams (Australia) lists his birth place as Markinch, Fife, Scotland with a birth date of 13 June 1813. Robyn Tester (Australia) believes it to be 13 June 1813 (baptism) and 26.5.1813 (birth) at Portmoak.
FreeBMD has George death in Qtr Jun 1891
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 345Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
This note was taken from the Galloway Bible, Treherbert, 1966
Birth (Parish of Portmoak, Kinnesswood, co. Kinross
George son of Stewart GALLOWAY Shoemaker
[note says 1812-13]
Their children were born in Scotland, baptized at Balgedie Presbyterian Church near Kinross, Kinross-shire
4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
RG10/5383
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
Part of Middle Hamlet. From Dunraven Inn to top of valley i.e. Blaencwm, BlaenRhondda, Bryn Windham & Dunraven Row
Schedule 6: Dunraven Row
George Galloway Head Marr 58 Butcher Scotland
Elizabeth Galloway Wife Marr 38 Scotland
David Galloway Son UMarr 16 Haulier at Colliery Scotland [prob born Henderson 1861 not in familyu in Wales - NLC]
Steward Galloway Son UMarr 6 Scholar Glamorgan, Glynneath
Margaret Galloway Daur UMarr 4 Glamorgan Britonferry
Hellen Galloway Daur Umarr 1 Glamorgan, Treherbert1881 Census
Dwelling: 16 Butcher Shop Dunraven Street Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 87 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GALLOWAY M 70 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth GALLOWAY M 50 F Scotland Rel: Wife Stuart GALLOWAY U 16 M Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Collier Margaret GALLOWAY 14 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ellen GALLOWAY 11 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Francis GALLOWAY 8 M Glamorgan, WalesFreeBMD has Elizabeth death in Qtr Mar 1893
District Pontypridd Vol 11a pg 326Elisabeth Gordon is name given to marry George as a widow. It is not clear if Gordon was her married or maiden name.
1891 census
RG12/4421 Pg 38
16 Dunraven Street
George Galloway, Head, 77, Retired Butcher, Scotland, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 53, Scotland, English speaker
Frank Galloway, Son, 18, Collier, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
The boy is NOT given in the Galloway Family at Cwmsaerbren in the 1861 census
It may be safely presumed that he was in Elizabeth HENDERSON's [formerly GORDON, spr] scottish home before she was widowed, and re-married George GALLOWAY , widower in 1861.
He could be a HENDERSON child, so would be George GALLOWAY's step-son.
Alternatively, he could be a natural son of George GALLOWAY's before his mother re-married. In support of this is the following
Visit 21 July 1966, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert
Ronald Galloway and his wife Bayne (nee DAVIES) stated that "Dai GALLOWAY" (or 'Dai Butsen' as sometimes called) came back in khaki on a visit to the Rhondda. [post - 1989 or Boer War?], and certainly had the true GALLOWAY features.
At 74 Miskin Street a large GALLOWAY Family Bible was shown recording many entries of Births, Marriages, Deaths1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
RG10/5383
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
Part of Middle Hamlet. From Dunraven Inn to top of valley i.e. Blaencwm, BlaenRhondda, Bryn Windham & Dunraven Row
Schedule 6: Dunraven Row
George Galloway Head Marr 58 Butcher Scotland
Elizabeth Galloway Wife Marr 38 Scotland
David Galloway Son UMarr 16 Haulier at Colliery Scotland [prob born Henderson 1861 not in familyu in Wales - NLC]
Steward Galloway Son UMarr 6 Scholar Glamorgan, Glynneath
Margaret Galloway Daur UMarr 4 Glamorgan Britonferry
Hellen Galloway Daur Umarr 1 Glamorgan, TreherbertPossible marriages are:
Marriages Jun 1879
GALLOWAY David Pontypridd 11a 445
Jordan Emma Pontypridd 11a 445
ROBLIN Mary Pontypridd 11a 445Neither Emma or Mary could be found in 1881 census. There is a David as Boarder (married without wife there) in Barrow in Furness.
Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
At register General, St Catherine's House, 10 Kingsway, London search of Deaths Index Volumes 1880 to 1973, inclusive, no trace found of David GALLOWAY's death having been registered in England & Wales. Probably returned in late life to Scotland. Or even like his half-brother Stewart Galloway also went & died in the USA
email from Glamorgan mailing list group re: church inscription.
You might like to know that, in the interior of the church of St. John the Baptist, Ystradyfodwg, there is a memorial stone to Elizabeth GALLAWAY (sic), the daughter of George and Elizabeth GALLAWAY, who died at the age of 8 years on 31st. July 1870.
Elizabeth, the daughter of George and Elizabeth, who died on 31st. July 1870 was buried at the church of St. John the Baptist on 3rd. August 1870. The abode was given as Treherbert.The 1894 description of MI's in St John the Baptist lists Elizabeth GALLOWAY's headstone.
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A high headstone 2' 4" wide In memory of Elizabeth daughter of George and Elizabeth Galloway who died July 31 1870 Aged 8 years "Suffer little Children to come unto me and forbid them not"
Now inside the Church
(entry 21)
1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
RG10/5383
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
Part of Middle Hamlet. From Dunraven Inn to top of valley i.e. Blaencwm, BlaenRhondda, Bryn Windham & Dunraven Row
Schedule 6: Dunraven Row
George Galloway Head Marr 58 Butcher Scotland
Elizabeth Galloway Wife Marr 38 Scotland
David Galloway Son UMarr 16 Haulier at Colliery Scotland [prob born Henderson 1861 not in familyu in Wales - NLC]
Steward Galloway Son UMarr 6 Scholar Glamorgan, Glynneath
Margaret Galloway Daur UMarr 4 Glamorgan Britonferry
Hellen Galloway Daur Umarr 1 Glamorgan, TreherbertHere is the 1881 census details if it is of any help Dwelling: 16 Butcher Shop Dunraven Street Census Place: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales Source: FHL Film 1342275 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5300 Folio 87 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GALLOWAY M 70 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth GALLOWAY M 50 F Scotland Rel: Wife Stuart GALLOWAY U 16 M Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Son Occ: Collier Margaret GALLOWAY 14 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ellen GALLOWAY 11 F Glamorgan, Wales Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Francis GALLOWAY 8 M Glamorgan, Wales
John Bridgeman has him born 1785 (20.6.2004)
Mary, Jean, Christian & John show parents as Stewart Galloway and Janet (Morrison?)
A Stewart Galloway and Janet Thomson is shown on the LDS Family Search as the parents of George Galloway born 13 Jun 1814. Probably the same George who went to S. Wales. It also shows a Mary (b. 8.8.1801), Jean (b. 1.4.1804), Christian (b. 7.10.1810) and John (b. 25.9.1825) also children of a Stewart Galloway and Janet Thomson.
The 1851 Census of Registration District 463 Enumeration District 4, Page 30, Entry 117 showing George Galloway & Agnes (Barclay) has on the pervious page 29 a John Galloway (married to Mary Ann). This could be the brother of George as shown in the LDS details.
Joy has provided a reference from the Mormon page for details and from the 1813 Register of Baptisms it states:
George lawful son of Stewart GALLOWAY and Janet MORISON was born the 26 May and Bapt. 13 June"
Also believes that Stewart was born in 1785.census
This is the only stewart showing on the 1841 census according to ancestry.co.uk
1841 (Is this Stewart with his grand-daughter?) Kinross census Portmoak E.D.5
Place Name Sex Age Occupation Born in County Page
Kinnesswood // Stewart Galloway M 60 Carrier No 13
Janet Galloway F 15 Linen Hand Loom Weaver Yes 131841 census (www.ancestry.co.uk)
Name: Stewart Galloway
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Portmoak
County: Kinross
Address: Kinnesswood
Occupation: Carrier
Parish Number: 464
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Galloway 15
Stewart Galloway 60Interestingly the GORDON family are living next door to Stewart. Is this the same GORDON family that produced Elizabeth GORDON b 1861 and second wife to George - Stewart's son.
Could this be Morison and not Thomson?
Mary, Jean, Christian & John show parents as Stewart Galloway and Janet (Morison?)
A Stewart Galloway and Janet Thomson is shown on the LDS Family Search as the parents of George Galloway born 13 Jun 1813. Probably the same George who went to S. Wales. It also shows a Mary (b. 8.8.1801), Jean (b. 1.4.1804), Christian (b. 7.10.1810) and John (b. 25.9.1825) also children of a Stewart Galloway and Janet Morison.
It is now believed that the LDS entry of THOMSON is mis-transcribed. The writing (so I have been told) is flowery and could easly be read as Morison (based on other names and letters written on the same page).
The 1851 Census of Registration District 463 Enumeration District 4, Page 30, Entry 117 showing George Galloway & Agnes (Barclay) has on the pervious page 29 a John Galloway (married to Mary Ann). This could be the brother of George as shown in the LDS details.
Consensus now agrees that the name is Morison. If the marriage is correct and in Portmoak then Janet is most likely to be from the area. IGI has 2 two possibilities on their index
Birth: 30 NOV 1788
Christening: 05 JUL 1789 Orwell, Kinross, Scotland
Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER MORISON
Mother: MARGARET HENDERSON
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C114632 1688 - 1820 1040204 Film 6903189 Film
This would be odd and I would expect the first child to be Alexander or Margaret. Why? Because husband Steart's parents are also supposed to be Alexander & Margaret.or
Event(s):
Birth: 15 MAR 1789 Orwell, Kinross, Scotland
Parents:
Father: ROBERT MORISON
Mother: ALISON MORISON
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C114632 1688 - 1820 1040204 Film 6903189 Film
FreeBMD shows marriage in Qtr Jun 1870
district Cardiff Vol 11a pg 359Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
1851 census
Cardiff Central Library index: 4(i)-78
Newtown, Cardiff
Noah Street [was off Pellet Street & Adam Street]
John Bridgeman Head Marr M 47 Labourer Washfield, Devon
Phillipa Bridgeman Wife Marr F 42 Penmark, Glamorgan
Jane Bridgeman Dau F 12 Whitchurch, Glamorgan
John Bridgeman Son M 10 Whitchurch, Glamorgan
James Bridgeman Son M 7 Cardiff, Glamorgan
Mary A Bridgeman Dau F 1 1/2 Cardiff, Glamorgan1861 census
PRO RG9/4035
St Mary Parish Cardiff
Page 59 Newtown
Schedule 213 6 Noah Street
John Bridgeman Head Marr M 52 Labourer Warshfield, Devon [he seems to have only aged 5 years since prev. census]
Phillipa Bridgeman Wife Marr F 52 Labourer's wife Penmark, Glamorgan
Jane Bridgeman Dau F UnM 20 Whitchurch, Glamorgan
John Bridgeman Son M UnM 18 Whitchurch, Glamorgan
James Bridgeman Son M 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan
Mary Ann Bridgeman Dau F 11 Cardiff, Glamorgan
John Williams Boarder M 1 Whitchurch, Cardiff
Daniel Thomas Lodger M UnM 24 Labourer Whitchurch, Cardiff
Jeremiah Williams Lodger UnM 32 Weighing Clerk, Monmouth1871 census
PRO RG10/5367 Cardiff: Roath SubDistrict 2
Scehdule 147:
14 Clifton Street
James Bridgeman Head M Marr 29 Night Foreman Rhymney Cardiff Glamorgan [actually 25 years !!]
Mary Bridgeman Wife M Marr 26 Scotland
(same road as brother John)1881 census
12 Topaz St, Roath, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5285/143 Page 28
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James BRIDGEMAN Head M Male 35 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Railway Engine Driver
Mary BRIDGEMAN Wife M Female 36 Scotland
Agnes BRIDGEMAN Daur Female 4 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Eleanor BRIDGEMAN Daur Female 1 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
FreeBMD shows marriage in Qtr Jun 1870
district Cardiff Vol 11a pg 359E-mail re: 1861 census
In 1861 George, Elizabeth and their 6 children are living at Cwmsaebren, Treherbert, no mention of Tylacoch
There is also a Mary Galloway, a 17 year old domestic servant, from Scotland, at Cwmsaebren in `61, different address.Note from John Bridgeman's email
On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
1861 census
RG9/4064
Ystradyfodwg, Hamlet: Middle, Tylacoch, Ynyswen
Schedule 89: Cwmsaerbren
Richard Thomas Head M UnM 21 Draper-grocer. Post master Glamorganshire, Llantrisant
Mary Galloway Serv F UnM 17 House Servent Scotland
William Richard Assistant M UnM 16 Grocer Assistant Carmarthenshire, Llandifilog
Robert Thomas Visitor M UnM 11 Scholar Glamorganshire, Llantrisant
William Washington Dando Visitor M UnM 10 Scholar Monmouth, Rhymney
Catherine Ann Dando Visitor F UnM 7 Scholar Glamorganshire, Ystradyfodwg1871 census
PRO RG10/5367 Cardiff: Roath SubDistrict 2
Scehdule 147:
14 Clifton Street
James Bridgeman Head M Marr 29 Night Foreman Rhymney Cardiff Glamorgan [actually 25 years !!]
Mary Bridgeman Wife M Marr 26 Scotland1881 census
12 Topaz St, Roath, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5285/143 Page 28
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James BRIDGEMAN Head M Male 35 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Railway Engine Driver
Mary BRIDGEMAN Wife M Female 36 Scotland
Agnes BRIDGEMAN Daur Female 4 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Eleanor BRIDGEMAN Daur Female 1 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Florence (Flo & Florrie) BRIDGEMAN
believed to be Eleanor Carpenter's (nee Bridgeman) sister
On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.Evon Williams has her born in Berkenshire, Edinburgh, Scotland
4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)
On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)Notes from Evon:
I have a copy of Rachel's death certificate and it shows her parents to be George Galloway and Agnes and George was a butcher. They were married in Parish Church,Treherbert, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales on 11th December 1871.
It was always known in our family that Samson married Rachel and had 7 children with him before she died, aged 33 of a blocked bowel duct. Samson then apparently sent back to Wales for Agnes, Rachel's sister, to help him look after the children and she came over and they married in Newcastle, NSW, Australia on 21 March 1887. They had 4 more children, only 2 of whom survived.KF Revised birth dates based on research done by Robyn Tester (16.11.2002)
Revised to between 5.9.1852 and 11.12.1852
1881 census
Dwelling Green Street
Redwick, Monmouth, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342265 filmno 1342265
PRO Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5260 / 70 Page Number 9Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel HARRIS Head M Male 56 Undy, Monmouth, England General Labourer
Harriett HARRIS Wife M Female 55 Moreton, Gloucester, England
James HARRIS Son U Male 35 Redwick, Monmouth, England General Labourer
Emma HARRIS Daur U Female 20 Redwick, Monmouth, England
1881 census
Dwelling Green Street
Redwick, Monmouth, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342265 filmno 1342265
PRO Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5260 / 70 Page Number 9Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel HARRIS Head M Male 56 Undy, Monmouth, England General Labourer
Harriett HARRIS Wife M Female 55 Moreton, Gloucester, England
James HARRIS Son U Male 35 Redwick, Monmouth, England General Labourer
Emma HARRIS Daur U Female 20 Redwick, Monmouth, England
Name of father taken from "Marriages in Ystradyfodwg" index. The Charles may already be in the list. He is given as deceased and so must have died prior to marriage of daughter Rosina on 4.9.1880.
Rosina is related to author's grandmother Florence Ellen Carpenter and is listed in her birthdaybook as is Archibald
Christening record found on ancestry.com for 31.1.1810. Could this be KF's Charles?
email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in countyon the same page is a Sarah Carpenter living with the Miller family in Wallace Lane. Is this Sarah daur of Charles and Mary?
1851 census
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, SomCharles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 18491861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East Harptree
email from Tony M 9.4.2007
Charles Carpenter is living in East Harptree during the 1841 census
with his wife Mary and children Ann age 6 and John aged 4.
Mary is aged 25 years and charles 30 years.1841 census East Harptree HO 107/967/13
Wallace
Charles Carpenter 30 Ag Lab born in county
Mary Carpenter 25 born in county
Ann Carpenter 6 born in county
John Carpenter 4 born in countyon the same page is a Sarah Carpenter living with the Miller family in Wallace Lane. Is this Sarah daur of Charles and Mary?
1851 census
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, SomCharles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 18491861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East HarptreeI was told name likely to be MILLARDS. email from Liz (Coles) in Munich 9.4.2007 shows
This look like the marriage of Charles and Mary, gleaned from www.familyhistoryoline.net
Groom Charles Carpenter status – of –, – Bride Mary Miller status – of –, – married on 7 Oct 1833 at parish East Harptree
Charles & Mary Carpenter baptised the following children at East Harptree according to the I.G.I. (I do not have any records for East Harptree Parish).
Sarah 15 Sep 1839
Frederick 28 Aug 1842 Eliza 29 Sep 1844
Francis 14 Feb 1846
Martha baptised 17 Mar 1849
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som
email from Peggy Goodger
Job Vranch aged 23 collier, son of William & Mary Ann (nee Matthews) married Ann Carpenter aged 28, daughter of Charles, on 3 Nov 1864 at Kilmersdon. Witnesses Joseph Barwell, Eliza Carpenter.
42 Coley Hamley this should say Hamlet CARPENTER Charles 40 Ag. Lab Axbridge, Som. Mary 37 East Harptree, Som John 14 Errand Boy East Harptree, Som Sarah 11 Scholar East Harptree, Som Eliza 6 Scholar East Harptree, Som Francis 4 Scholar East Harptree, Som Maria 1 East Harptree, Som
1861 census details from Phil Clements
The 1861 Census - East Harptree Parish - Res: Coley - Piece 1677 - Folio 55 - Page 4 - Schedule 20
Charles Carpenter Head M 50 Labourer (Ag) Axbridge
Mary Carpenter Wife M 47 East Harptree
Martha Carpenter Daur 11 East Harptree
Jane Carpenter Daur 8 Scholar East Harptree
Emma Carpenter Gdaur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Rosina Carpenter Daur 6 Scholar East Harptree
Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
Informed ny Mr Thomas Cram 18 Waun Fawr Road, Whitchurch Cardiff.
After 1865 or so, Thomas Cram & Jessie [Galloway] settled in Dinas Powis. Eventually with that large family of 10, a second home bought so that the boys on becoming 14 lived with FATHER!!1881 census
Cardiff St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5292/87 Page 17
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CRAM Head M Male 41 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter (House)
Jessie CRAM Wife M Female 40 Kinross, Scotland
Thomas S. CRAM Son Male 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter
Elizabeth A. CRAM Daur Female 13 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Ernest CRAM Son Male 12 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Jessie CRAM Daur Female 10 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Robert O. CRAM Son Male 8 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rhoda H. CRAM Daur Female 6 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rachel M. CRAM Daur Female 5 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charles D. CRAM Son Male 4 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Frederick J. CRAM Son Male 3 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Florence E.G. CRAM Daur Female 1 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.Originally Janet & Jessie were thought of as 2 different children. NLC's document on 1979 based on the Bible seen in 1966 state that Janet and Jessie were one and the same person.
She is shown in the 1841 census data of Portmoak (3 months) and in the 1851 census of Orwell (age 10). She is not believed to have travelled to Wales with the family. Could she have gone into service? or died. There is a Janet on the 1861 census of Kinneswood (age 16) with a Stewart Galloway (age 60). I do not know if they are Grandfather/Grand-daughter. If so they could be linked to George & Agnes.1881 census
Cardiff St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5292/87 Page 17
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CRAM Head M Male 41 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter (House)
Jessie CRAM Wife M Female 40 Kinross, Scotland
Thomas S. CRAM Son Male 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter
Elizabeth A. CRAM Daur Female 13 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Ernest CRAM Son Male 12 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Jessie CRAM Daur Female 10 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Robert O. CRAM Son Male 8 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rhoda H. CRAM Daur Female 6 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rachel M. CRAM Daur Female 5 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charles D. CRAM Son Male 4 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Frederick J. CRAM Son Male 3 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Florence E.G. CRAM Daur Female 1 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
1881 census
Cardiff St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5292/87 Page 17
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CRAM Head M Male 41 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter (House)
Jessie CRAM Wife M Female 40 Kinross, Scotland
Thomas S. CRAM Son Male 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter
Elizabeth A. CRAM Daur Female 13 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Ernest CRAM Son Male 12 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Jessie CRAM Daur Female 10 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Robert O. CRAM Son Male 8 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rhoda H. CRAM Daur Female 6 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rachel M. CRAM Daur Female 5 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charles D. CRAM Son Male 4 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Frederick J. CRAM Son Male 3 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Florence E.G. CRAM Daur Female 1 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
been a butcher (?); 1913 appointed Cardiff vaccination Officer1881 census
Cardiff St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5292/87 Page 17
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CRAM Head M Male 41 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter (House)
Jessie CRAM Wife M Female 40 Kinross, Scotland
Thomas S. CRAM Son Male 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter
Elizabeth A. CRAM Daur Female 13 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Ernest CRAM Son Male 12 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Jessie CRAM Daur Female 10 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Robert O. CRAM Son Male 8 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rhoda H. CRAM Daur Female 6 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rachel M. CRAM Daur Female 5 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charles D. CRAM Son Male 4 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Frederick J. CRAM Son Male 3 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Florence E.G. CRAM Daur Female 1 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
batchelor; went to Australia1881 census
Cardiff St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
PRO RG11 Piece/Folio 5292/87 Page 17
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CRAM Head M Male 41 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter (House)
Jessie CRAM Wife M Female 40 Kinross, Scotland
Thomas S. CRAM Son Male 15 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Painter
Elizabeth A. CRAM Daur Female 13 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Ernest CRAM Son Male 12 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Jessie CRAM Daur Female 10 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Robert O. CRAM Son Male 8 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rhoda H. CRAM Daur Female 6 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Rachel M. CRAM Daur Female 5 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charles D. CRAM Son Male 4 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Frederick J. CRAM Son Male 3 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Florence E.G. CRAM Daur Female 1 St Andrews, Glamorgan, Wales
On the Galloway side I have incorporated the birth dates of all George Galloway's children. These were discovered by Norman Carpenter in the Galloway Family Bible which I believe he saw at Ronald Galloway's house, 74 Miskin Street, Treherbert when he visited there on 21 July 1966.
All the Scottish Galloways were born at Hatton Burn Farm and all christened at Balgedie Presbyterian Church.May have been in 6 Station Terrace, Treherbert in 1905. (the addresses
at this year may be mixed up with his father)4064 1861 CENSUS OF MIDDLE HAMLET. REF.R.G.9/4064, E.D.7.
Piece: 4064 Folio: 002 Schedule: 034
Address: CWMSAERBREN
GALLAWAY GEORGE HD M 41 FARM BAILIFF SCT - (c1820)
GALLAWAY ELIZABETH WI M 31 - SCT - (c1830)
GALLAWAY ARCHIBALD SO U 15 COAL MINER SCT - (c1846)
GALLAWAY GEORGE SO U 13 AG LAB SCT - (c1848)
GALLAWAY JOHN SO U 11 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1850)
GALLAWAY AGNES DA U 9 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1852)
GALLAWAY JANE DA U 7 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1854)
GALLAWAY RACHAEL DA U 5 SCHOLAR SCT - (c1856)1871 census data provided from Glamorgan FHS
>In `71 Tylacoch Farm is named, occupied by a Lewis >Davies, farm bailiff, and his family. I could not find George in the time >that I had, but the family were growing up. His son George was a collier and >local preacher, in lodgings, and John, coal haulier, was married to Emma and >had their 7m old son George.1871 census Taken from the Family research carried out by Norman Leonard CARPENTER and "written up" in 1979
Pontypridd District, Ystradyfodwg Sub District
RG 10/5383
Part of Middle Hamlet - Houses at Treherbert from Dunraven Inn to Libanus Chapel, Cwmsaerbren Farm House Cottages by Treherbert Station. Huts by Bute Merthyr Colliery and Tylaforest Farm house.
Schedule 221: Dumfries Street
Francis Carpenter Head Marr 24 Collier Somersetshire
Jane Carpenter Wife Marr 20 - Scotland
Ernest Carpenter Son 1 Treherbert
Thomas John Head Marr 24 Collier Pembrokeshire
Mary A John Wife Marr 22 Monmouthshire
Thomas John Son 2 Glamorganshire Treherbert
Sarah I John Daur 9mo Glamorganshire Treherbert
George Galloway Lodger UnMarr 24 Collier & local preacher Scotland [NLC - Methodist Circuit]BMD data?
Marriages Dec 1872
Shepston Elizabeth Cardiff 11a 511
Galloway George Cardiff 11a1881 census details as tracked down by John Thompson
Census: 1881, GLA, Ystradfodwg, Treorchy, 39 Dumfries Rd.
George GREENWAY Head M Male 33 Kinross, Scotland Coal Miner
Elizabeth GREENWAY Wife M Female 36 Roberrow, Somerset, England
Agnes GREENWAY Dau Female 6 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
William H. GREENWAY Son Male 4 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charlotte GREENWAY Dau Female 4 m Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales
Source Information:
Dwelling 39 Dumfries St Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5300 / 119 Page Number 41891 census
RG12/442? Pg 7
39 Dumfries Street
George Galloway, Head, 43, coalminer, Scotland Kinross, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 46, Somerset, English speaker
Agnes Galloway, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
William H Galloway, Son, 14, coalminer, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
John Galloway, Son, 8, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
George Galloway, Son, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
Also on BMD with Marriage Qtr 1872 - Cardiff
1881 census details as tracked down by John Thompson
Census: 1881, GLA, Ystradfodwg, Treorchy, 39 Dumfries Rd.
George GREENWAY Head M Male 33 Kinross, Scotland Coal Miner
Elizabeth GREENWAY Wife M Female 36 Roberrow, Somerset, England
Agnes GREENWAY Dau Female 6 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
William H. GREENWAY Son Male 4 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charlotte GREENWAY Dau Female 4 m Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales
Source Information:
Dwelling 39 Dumfries St Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5300 / 119 Page Number 41891 census
RG12/442? Pg 7
39 Dumfries Street
George Galloway, Head, 43, coalminer, Scotland Kinross, English speaker
Elizabeth Galloway, Wife, 46, Somerset, English speaker
Agnes Galloway, Daughter, 16, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
William H Galloway, Son, 14, coalminer, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
John Galloway, Son, 8, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speaker
George Galloway, Son, 5, Glamorgan - Ystradyfodwg, English speakeremail from John Thompson 2.2.2004
Apparantly came to Treorchy with her elder brother John. After marrying George Galloway, the couple lived in the same street as John & Family
1881 census details as tracked down by John Thompson
Census: 1881, GLA, Ystradfodwg, Treorchy, 39 Dumfries Rd.
George GREENWAY Head M Male 33 Kinross, Scotland Coal Miner
Elizabeth GREENWAY Wife M Female 36 Roberrow, Somerset, England
Agnes GREENWAY Dau Female 6 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
William H. GREENWAY Son Male 4 Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar
Charlotte GREENWAY Dau Female 4 m Treherbert, Glamorgan, Wales
Source Information:
Dwelling 39 Dumfries St Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5300 / 119 Page Number 4